Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Merítés Prize

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The result was delete. It is unfortunate we could not find more people fluent in Hungarian to help evaluate this, but we'll have to go with what we've got. As always, if somebody finds good sources, sufficient to meet WP:GNG, this can be recreated. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merítés Prize[edit]

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Award given by a poll of readers from a non-notable website with no evidence of outside coverage MarginalCost (talk) 07:54, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Moly.hu is not "a non-notable website" in Hungary. Is older than goodreads. (balagesh) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balagesh (talk • contribs) 08:23, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Hungarian Wiki has an article about the website hu:Moly.hu. Now, the article doesn't look like much, but I think we need a Hungarian speaker to comment on this. There may be non-English sources out there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:37, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Piotrus, I missed that. I was perhaps a bit hasty in declaring moly.hu non-notable (though I did do a basic check). Nonetheless, that hu.wiki article seems borderline promotional. It's outside sources are currently broken, but seem to be random blogs unlikely to pass en.wiki sourcing standards. Even if Moly.hu is notable, I can't find any evidence the award is. MarginalCost (talk) 02:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MarginalCost I agree with most of what you say here (and below), I am just playing a devil's advocate. What we really need is a Hungarian speaker who can comment on (and maybe find more) Hungarian sources. This topic's notability, if any, is going to rely solely on them. Perhaps a direct ping for comments at WT:HUNGARY might help? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:03, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a note there. The article was also added to the Hungary-related delsort list last week. If no sources are found, this article should be deleted until notability can be established. MarginalCost (talk) 15:10, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Maybe you should try this as a proof: open Google and type this: krasznahorkai lászló háború és háború. This is the Hungarian title of en:War and War. You will find the link to moly.hu on the top. Maybe this is an evidence of local importance of moly.hu. — Balagesh (talk • contribs) 08:50, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A high search rank for a particular book - even many books - doesn't establish notability. That is established by multiple reliable independent secondary sources giving significant coverage to the topic. If this prize is really of local importance, then it shouldn't be hard to find some reliable source writing about it. (Writing about it in Hungarian is fine.) In any case, this AfD isn't about the website, it's about the award. MarginalCost (talk) 02:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The notability of the parent website is irrelevant. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. If the website is notable, the website can have an article and the prize can be mentioned there. But only if. If reliable, in-depth Hugarian sources are forthcoming I might change my mind, but I'm not seeing a lot, using either the English or Hungarian search term. http://www.ekultura.hu has a few articles, but I'm not convinced it is RS. They call for user-submitted articles. SpinningSpark 17:50, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I am not very much interested in this article, however, let me mention, that several notable contemporary writers got this prize, such as László Krasznahorkai, György Dragomán, Pál Závada, Krisztián Grecsó, Dániel Varró. This does not prove the notability in itself, but is worth a mention. Ps. I checked the Hungarian version, and it has no independent sources except the website itself, and the prize is not mentioned in the articles of the writers, where I checked. Bináris (talk) 12:17, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not much found when searching for "Merítés-díj" either, does not appear notable. Would be lovely to have comments from 2–3 editors fluent in Hungarian. Sam Sailor 05:22, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.