Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mechscape (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and salt per WP:CRYSTAL and recreation of deleted material. This is simply another incarnation of fan speculation that's gone through two previous AFDs and four CSDs. Enough. - KrakatoaKatie 14:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mechscape[edit]

WP:NOT#CRYSTALBALL would apply, but the article doesn't even bother to speculate. It seems to be coming out soon, and I wouldn't be objected to recreating it once it's out and notable. J-ſtan^Contribs_{User page} 21:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. This is a nothing article at the moment.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 22:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - What is it? I have to go with the nom: when it comes out, then let it assert proper referenced notability. LonelyBeacon (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Master of Puppets ^{Call me MoP!} 00:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, speedy perhaps, and salt. This is either the third or fourth time this article has come up for deletion one way or the other and still they don't get it. The game has no official confirmation, no reliable coverage, just some original research/synthesis involving some job descriptions on Jagex's site. There's a fansite link every time the article's recreated, quite possibly the repeated pushing of this article is a fansite trying to steal a march on its (future) rivals. If fansites do cause problems with this article when it is eventually created because of reliable sources, not in spite of them, I'd suggest linking Open Directory Project and removing any fansite listings. WP is not a highway for fansite traffic. Someone another (talk) 16:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MechScape Is already protected, pretty sure there's been more than one creation there too. Someone another (talk) 16:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someone another (talk) 16:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and WP:SALT per nom. The fansites are neither here nor there. RFerreira (talk) 05:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Protected Redirect to Jagex#Future Developments - The issue with MechScape is not of WP:CrystalBall so much as it is WP:Synth. It can verifiably be established that Jagex have invested in the term 'MechScape', seperately be verifiable that they have been working on a new futuristic MMORPG, and separately be verifiable that they have been hiring people to create vehicles and other such things. All this is related to Jagex and is suitable for that article, and it makes sense to add one and one together, especially considering that some sources who claim to have insider knowledge have stated that MechScape is the new MMORPG and there is little evidence to the contrary. However, drawing logical conclusions based on available evidence is not the role of Wikipedia. People who are looking for Mechscape and MechScape should be content with "Jagex#Future development", so I propose a protected redirect instead of a delete (as per WP:SALT). --RS Ren (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Protected Redirect per above. User:Krator (t c) 18:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and WP:SALT per nom.--brew crewer (yada, yada) 00:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per RS Ren --T-rex 03:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.