Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McGrawville, New York

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is to keep, at this time. Further conversation about possible merger can continue in the appropriate place. Mojo Hand (talk) 18:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

McGrawville, New York[edit]

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This information should be located in the town of New Hudson article. This small hamlet does not need its own article; absolutely no apparent notability. ɱ (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 22:28, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Populated places of all sizes are considered notable as part of Wikipedia's function as a gazetteer (and by long-standing AfD precedent). The community could probably be merged into the town article (and a local historian says it doesn't exist anymore) but that's not really a discussion for AfD. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 02:53, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is if merging involves no actual moving of content and instead merely doing away with this article.--ɱ (talk) 03:04, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I agree with The Catalyst31. I would be open to a merger provided the reference TheCatalyst31 wss added on. Also what about changing the classification of McGrawville from a hamlet to that of a ghost town. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:12, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a ghost town? The Neva Gross local historian reference says there are just a few old barns there now, sounds like not a ghost town. --do ncr am 23:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. Unless there is some information added, this is better redirected, probably to New Hudson, New York#Communities and locations in New Hudson. If/when sources establishing separate notability, and enough length to need a separate article, the redirect could be revised to be an article again. Better to redirect, keeping edit history at the redirect. --do ncr am 23:34, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree.--ɱ (talk) 23:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now I have added to the article, based on Catalyst31's reference: "According to a local historian, the settlement grew as a village around a saw mill, and at one time included "a store, cheese factory, blacksmith shop, and ten or twelve dwellings" including tenement houses for workers on a stockraising farm, and a boarding house. It was the location of a U.S. Post Office for more than 50 years, from 1849 through about 1900.^[1]

^ Neva Gross, New Hudson Town Historian. "McGrawville". Rootsweb. Retrieved 2014-11-17.

So now maybe there is enough to keep something here. Notability is not temporary; a former settlement can be covered. I could accept keeping or merging & redirecting. --do ncr am 23:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty good find, but it's still small enough to warrant merging and redirecting.--ɱ (talk) 23:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are hundreds of references to McGrawville in old newspapers when I searched Newspapers.com. --I am One of Many (talk) 07:39, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mere references doesn't make an article notable/worth keeping, it is still far too short for its own article, and well short enough to just be a mere paragraph in the town's article.--ɱ (talk) 20:43, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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