Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mboka Mwilambwe

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 06:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mboka Mwilambwe[edit]

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Subject doesn't meet WP:NPOL: Mayor-elect of a city of about 78,000. WP:PROD (within 3 hours of creation) and WP:Draftify (within a day of creation) reverted, so here we are. Closeapple (talk) 05:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Closeapple (talk) 05:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Closeapple (talk) 05:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per own nomination: Bloomington, Illinois isn't big enough for a mayor to be considered inevitably notable. Mwilambwe's only other elected office is as an alderman, which is a district member of the same city council. His highest professional position is on a department's staff at Illinois State University in the same city. The biography is lifted straight from his campaign site; the only independent coverage on Google web/news searches appear to be local routine coverage of city council and campaigns. WP:PROD was removed by the article creator Uinko (talk · contribs) without comment; move to WP:Drafts was moved back to article space by GoldAu79 (talk · contribs), another relatively inexperienced user, also without comment. --Closeapple (talk) 05:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom, misses multiple coverage for BASIC. RockOften (talk) 16:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Don't Delete I think the page should stay as the current mayor, Tari Renner has a page already, though I understand that since Mwilambwe wouldn't be considered notable enough yet, I suppose it could be placed back under draft until he would be considered notable enough. GoldAu79 (talk) 01:34, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I re-created the Renner article relying more on his professorship than his mayoral position. I'd be unopposed to that deletion if opposed. --Mpen320 via mobile
- Tari Renner's notability seems marginal at best, and Mboka Mwilambwe has less notability than Renner; for example, Renner was at least Democratic nominee for Congress and had a minor regular spot on WEEK-TV, and those aren't even enough to match Wikipedia:Notability. As Mpen320 implied, the only way even Renner might be notable is if he's particularly well-known in his academic field of political science, not necessarily as as actual public politician, and right now I don't even see much proof of that. --Closeapple (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination.--Mpen320 via mobile
Move to Draft I see, well Could you move it back to draft so then I could continue working on it until the page is considered notable enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldAu79 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- How do you plan on establishing that the subject is notable, though? Or are we just waiting it out a couple months and see if something spectacular happens? --Closeapple (talk) 00:41, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Bloomington IL is not a large or important enough city to guarantee the "inherent" notability of every mayor it's ever had — but the article is not sourced well enough to clear the bar that mayors actually have to clear (which is the ability to write and reliably source a substantial article that demonstrates his political significance, not just the ability to verify that he won the mayoral election.) And no, just because his predecessor has an article doesn't mean he automatically gets one too, either: his predecessor is demonstrating preexisting notability as an academic, and isn't depending on mayoralty alone, but even when it comes to the mayoralty he's still showing considerably more substance and sourcing than this is. Again: the notability test for mayors is not "verifiably elected as mayor = automatically in" — it requires much more significance and much more sourcing than just showing minimal verification that he exists. Bearcat (talk) 04:02, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.