Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maya Massar

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The result was delete. A really weird history to this article (involving the subject herself blanking most any attempts to add more content to this article) but consensus indicates deletion at this moment in time. — foxj 01:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maya Massar[edit]

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Easily speedy and PROD material (which I contemplatively considered) but as IMDb lists as Leo Award (not that it's much, especially saving the article) and the best my searches found was this, this and this. It's also worth noting the author's name was "mayamassar" and it continued changing this article even including blanking the page multiple times (an attempt at deleting the article?) until a MayaAYG started in August 2014 and lastly it's also worth noting the history shows most of the sources ever being unusable such as freewebs.com, IMDb, Amazon, etc.). Pinging subject users [email protected], MichaelQSchmidt and Onel5969 and also DGG who may want to comment. SwisterTwister talk 07:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 07:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 07:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per notability established through her sourcable career meeting WP:ENT.[1][2] The stub needs work, yes... but being stubby is no reason to delete a notable and sourcable topic. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 09:20, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - notability definitely not established. imdb.com is not usually considered a reliable source when establishing notability. And even if it were, this person's imdb bio clearly does not meet WP:NACTOR. She's had a single significant role in a notable film (that of the Mom in the Uninvited). Her role in Cabin was a minor one. And searches show that she doesn't meet WP:GNG, all of the mentions were of the trivial kind, announcing her as part of the cast. She's a working actress, but not notable. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Mostly trivia credits,almost no major roles. Not notable. DGG ( talk ) 21:14, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above- Fails NACTOR & GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 02:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Unusual AFD, possibly haunted First, there's the fact that the article has been here since 2009, and an SPA named MayaMassar repeatedly removed large swaths of content for years, more recently an SPA named MayaAYG has been doing so. Then there's IMDB, not reliable, but that's an awfully long list of movies. I searched for her on the LATimes, a 2009 review panning a horror movie came up, "Well, there's the fact that Mom (Maya Massar) keeps popping up around the house in one horribly disfigured form or another, screaming "Murderer!" while pointing at Rachel." It reads as though we should know who Maya Massar is (a notorious ghost?) I'll take a swing at sourcing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proquest Newspapers search turned up a profile in her hometown paper, Langley, British Columbia You are invited to Uninvited, Tamminga, Monique. Langley Times [Langley, B.C] 29 Jan 2009: "She plays a terrifying ghost in the DreamWorks film staring Emily Browning (best known for Lemony Snickets, ) and Arielle Kebbel (Gilmour Girls, John Tucker Must Die)" (The Uninvited (2009 film)). According to the Langley Times, Massar is: "Massar, an artist, poet and alternative healing facilitator" who plays a lot of ghosts and ghouls. Next article: "Leos a one-stop meet-mart: Producer sees long life for coroner drama": [Final Edition], Parry, Malcolm. The Vancouver Sun [Vancouver, B.C] 14 May 2002: B3. Husband David Massar turns out to be a movie producer who persuaded his wife to become an actress. Films got local awards. Some details of marriage. Next article: Actually, no. There are quite a lot of articles, also reviews with short mentions for probably all the movies at IMDB. Also stuff like an article: A school to get up early for: Families have been known to camp overnight to register their children at Langley Fine Arts School: [National Edition], Dube, Francine. National Post [Don Mills, Ont] 24 Apr 2001: A15. Where she talks about how great the school where her kids go is. Summing up She is sort of notable for playing roles in horror films, newspapers interview her about the 4.5 hours she spends in make-up session to come out looking like something the cat dragged in. I don't do a lot of AFDs for minor film actors, so, asking those who do, is this enough? And what do we do about an AFD for an article that people have tried to source, only to have those SPAs keep wiping out whole sections?E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

'Delete is how I assessed this. Legacypac (talk) 10:59, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.