Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/May al-Ibrashy

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The result was no consensus‎. ✗plicit 12:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May al-Ibrashy[edit]

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BLP of an Egyptian architect lacking coverage in reliable independent sources. I think it is significant that I could not find any sources at all in Arabic. Mccapra (talk) 07:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think al-Ibrashy is notable on a number of levels, and that this can be demonstrated through appropriate sourcing. I’ve added around 9 cites, with some limited text expansion, and done some tidying. Google Books is also showing a number of sources that could be used if other editors had access to them. KJP1 (talk) 10:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Architecture, and Egypt. Mccapra (talk) 07:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding these. I’m still not seeing sustained in depth coverage in independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 12:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That’s fine. We just disagree. She’s a woman architect, in an Arab society, undertaking work which has gained international recognition. Let’s see what others think. KJP1 (talk) 15:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Podcasts aren't what we're looking for with sourcing; appears to be a working architect, nothing found that we can use for RS. Oaktree b (talk) 17:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oaktree b - I apologise in advance if this comes across as badgering, but I think there's one podcast in the sourcing, in addition to Worldcat/SOAS/Architectural League of New York/France 24/The American University in Cairo/Honolulu Star-Advertiser/Charlotte School of Architecture/Egyptian Streets etc. Plus a bunch of Google Books that show potential. We can certainly debate the extent of the coverage, as Mccapra has done, but to suggest that there is no RS really isn't accurate. All I ask is that we consider carefully the case for deletion. We know women are underrepresented on here, Arabic women in the professions certainly so. In al-Ibrashy we have a successful professional working in an important area of heritage conservation, with a body of work that has gained international recognition. Would there be any objection if I flagged this discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red? I don't want to canvass but I think it's a topic that may generate interest there, and perhaps some additional views/sourcing. As an example, I learnt from it that Egyptian Streets has an article on here. KJP1 (talk) 17:30, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.