Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mawj Aldarraji

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The result was no consensus. Very little participation. Perhaps there are non-English sources? Please see if any improvements can be made before renominating. Missvain (talk) 00:37, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mawj Aldarraji[edit]

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apparent promotional article for amateur athlete. Anything that would do equally well as a web page for her is promotional. I cannot judge notability as I cannot read the references, but I assume they support the promotionalism. Many seem to be interviews with her where she presumably says whatever she cares to about herself. DGG ( talk ) 19:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:10, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:11, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iraq-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:11, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:11, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am not familiar with this style of editing as I almost always use the visual editor, so first, please forgive me if I am not abiding by typical formatting standards! But as a bilingual person I can assure you that the links in Arabic go beyond personal promotion and include wide-ranging third-party media reports about her activities and stances on Iraqi gender politics. -jackie.salzinger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie.salzinger (talk • contribs) 12:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackie.salzinger: Could you tell us which two or three links best exemplify that? And no worries about the formatting; just sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~); more info is at Help:Introduction to talk pages if you want to see the full guide. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdkb: I suppose the most obvious resources are her inclusion in the Iraqi Women Right's ambassadorship and "For a New Iraq" campaigns, which are political rather than athletic promotion. The DW link is to her participation in a television debate on polygyny, nothing to do with her career. While most of the TV interviewers do ask about her background, preparations, and ambitions, they also cover topics that have social significance, like gendered upbringing and expectations (and I would encourage other en-wiki editors to consider this within the Iraqi cultural context, perhaps starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Iraq which I haven't myself looked through but hope may provide some suggestion as to the potential force of that speech in the local context). Jackie.salzinger (talk) 20:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jackie.salzinger, interviews generally aren't ideal for establishing Wikipedia notability, since they're primary sources (the subject is speaking about themselves) rather than secondary sources (where an independent third party is writing about the subject). My intuitive sense is that Aldarraji probably meets the biographical notability guideline, but to prove it, it'd be helpful to have two or three links (just paste the URLs, and it's okay if they're in Arabic) to independently-reported profiles or other news coverage about her. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 11:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Third time is the charm.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 16:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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