Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt White (minor league pitcher)

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 09:23, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Matt White (minor league pitcher)[edit]

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NN minor leaguer, fails WP:NBASE & WP:GNG. Only sources are his college player bio & B-R minors. Possibly notable via Gatorade Player of the Year awards, but could be redirected there. Bison X (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Baseball. Bison X (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of San Francisco Giants first-round draft picks. Spanneraol (talk) 21:34, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable, no Olympics appearance, never made it to the Majors, 100 something games in the Minors. Oaktree b (talk) 23:38, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm finding a good number of book mentions (Examples: 1, 2, 3) in addition to coverage from the Baltimore Sun, LA Times, Tampa Bay Times, as well as this feature story. I was also able to find this article from the Ann Arbor News from 2010. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:33, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The 3 book mentions are not about White, but about Boras' use Rule 4E to manipulate free-agency for his client; these sources would be best in Boras' article or an article about the draft or the Devil Rays' early years, but not about White. The other 4 newspaper articles focus on the $10.2 million signing bonus, or his success in High School, but don't establish any notability in his own right (High School all-stars aren't notable, they're routine). The only article that is about him, is the Ann Arbor article about him being hired as the Wolverines' pitching coach. These accomplishments, even when taken on the whole, do not merit his own article. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 23:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The newspaper articles are all focused on him. How is his unique place in baseball history because of the 4E rule not notability lending? Yes being a high school all conference or all state player is routine, but he was the National player of the year so that doesn't particularly apply. GPL93 (talk) 23:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Points taken, which is why I believe White's notability exists in mentions in those articles, but he himself does not cross the threshold to have an article (inherited notability). Conversely, you have made a case for which the article could be kept, which is a good thing. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 00:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Except with full length articles focused on him in at least 3 major US newspapers (the Baltimore Sun article goes into his high school accomplishments, relationship with Boras, the start of his professional career, his family background, and the 4E manipulation so not just some minor mention in a story about the 4E thing) and full length articles in the other two (the Joplin paper and Ann Arbor Times), subject isn't just a footnote and passes WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Rather easily passes WP:GNG with multiple sources of significant coverage. Outside of the coverage found by User_talk:GPL93, I found this on Newspapers.com [1][2] Alvaldi (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've now added several sources to the article, both those mentioned above and others I found on Newspapers.com. There are now 12 significant sources from seven publications from a period of 14 years in the article. Alvaldi (talk) 10:03, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets GNG easily. Besides the sources above there are newspaper articles about him from when the Giants drafted him. There is no guideline saying that high school athletes or minor league athletes are not notable, only that they need to meet GNG to be considered notable. And Matt White meets GNG with room to spare. Rlendog (talk) 15:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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