Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mathew Knowles

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KTC (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mathew Knowles[edit]

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A non-notable music manager. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. SplashScreen (talk) 20:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Really needs lots of citing. FarceFan (talk) 20:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It fails both WP: GNG, as the sources are unreliable and WP: BIO. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NRVE: Topic notability is dependent on sources BEING available, not there use or not within an article. Statυs (talk) 00:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NRVE and WP:BEFORE. Statυs (talk) 00:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A few sources I found rather quickly [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] Statυs (talk) 00:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand with the very good sources provided by Status. I recommend (again) SplashScreen to read WP:BEFORE. AfD is only for articles that cannot be improved in any way and therefore un-fixable. But this is well expandable. Cheers! —Hahc 21 00:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep and close per sources provided above, this article meets WP:GNG. I suggest that the nominator reads WP:BEFORE, as they have nominated numerous notable articles for AfD recently. Till 04:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - But what is it that these sources tell us about Mathew Knowles, besides "he managed his daughters through much of their careers"? Per WP:BIO1E, Knowles is not inherently notable just because of this. SplashScreen (talk) 09:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He is not notable for "only one event". He is notable for managing Destiny's Child (one of the best selling girl group's of all time), his 2 daughters and now launching a new girl group. Statυs (talk) 09:26, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

His two daughters both being members (however temporarily) with Destiny's Child and a non-notable new girl group? Yeah, WP:BIO1E. SplashScreen (talk) 09:33, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and he had a pretty big music company, in which he sold for $10 million dollars Statυs (talk) 09:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

People are not inherently notable because they have lots of money. SplashScreen (talk) 09:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When did I say that? I just made mention he made a big music company, that he sold for a lot of money. Statυs (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not in the business of creating articles for non-notable people who sell their non-notable businesses for non-notable amounts of money. SplashScreen (talk) 09:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A few more sources talking about his management [7] He quit his job to manage Destiny's Child [8], other DC members trying to fire him led them to be fired from the group [9], lawsuit against him by them [10]. Statυs (talk) 10:11, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Splash, If you have lots of money, you are notable. Search thru Wikipedia and all people with 100+ million in wealth have an article here. Just debunking your comment about "People are not inherently notable because they have lots of money", which is totally false per common sense and some guidelines I don't need to cite. Cheers! —Hahc 21 01:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It meets WP:GNG. It should just be expanded. My love is love (talk) 09:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, sufficient for the General notability guideline. --Fæ (talk) 10:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as subject rockets across the verifiability and notability thresholds, per reliable third-party sources. - Dravecky (talk) 22:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Williams, Brennan (July 6, 2012). "Mathew Knowles Talks New Destiny's Child Album, Blue Ivy, Reality Television". Huffington Post. Retrieved July 6, 2012.
"Mathew Knowles' Reality Show 'Breaking From Above' Premieres In America". Huffington Post. June 26, 2012. Retrieved July 6, 2012.
Fekadu, Mesfin (November 17, 2011). "Mathew Knowles is back with new girl group". Boston Globe. Boston, MA. Associated Press. Retrieved July 6, 2012.
"Mathew Knowles appointed to gospel board". Houston Business Journal. Houston, TX. February 17, 2011. Retrieved July 6, 2012.
Cox, Tony (November 27, 2006). "Mathew Knowles on Fatherhood and Beyonce". National Public Radio. Retrieved July 6, 2012.
Infantry, Ashante (March 20, 2005). "A parent who knows his Destiny; Crave stardom? Meet Mathew Knowles and get ready to work". Toronto Star. Toronto, ON. p. C09. Retrieved July 6, 2012.

Snow Keep – This person clearly passes WP:BASIC and WP:GNG. Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per multiple reasons above. Mabalu (talk) 11:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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