Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massimo Ridolfi

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 10:51, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Massimo Ridolfi[edit]

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Violates WP:NOTDATABASE, due to be sourced only to databases, and fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage - all we know about him is that he competed in the team gymnastics event of the 1908 Olympics, his name, and where and when he was born. BilledMammal (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Violates WP:NOTDATABASE" isn't true or relevant, as the article is not 1)Summary-only descriptions of works, 2)Lyrics databases, 3)Excessive listings of unexplained statistics or 4)Exhaustive logs of software updates. If nothing can be found for this guy, then redirect to Gymnastics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's team per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R#KEEP and WP:CHEAP. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a sports stat database entry on the subjects appearance in the Olympics masquerading as an article. There are no significant sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or redirect to Gymnastics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's team per WP:PRESERVE, etc. No Great Shaker (talk) 21:05, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing sysop. Citing WP:NOTDATABASE here completely invalidates the nominator's case. The article has not been written as a database. If the nominator does not understand the purpose of the site's policies and guidelines, how can their flood of nominations be justified? No Great Shaker (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - That argument only makes sense if you take the literal wording of NOTDATABASE and entirely ignore the spirit (and yes, the article is only a "summary description of a person", which IMHO is much worse than a "summary-only description of works", since, you know, it's an actual human being and nobody bothered to write a proper article). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 05:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails GNG. Will reconsider if significant coverage can be found to validate the presumption of notability, especially since experienced sports editors have responded who surely would have presented these sources if they existed. –dlthewave ☎ 02:04, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in the absence of even a remote sign of meeting GNG or of any source with which to write an article (and, no, a two-sentence-database-entry-converted-into-basic-English-text is not an "article", and fails WP:BADIDEA - if we had articles about every person who is mentioned in some database, then the current number of articles we have would likely be dwarfed by a significant amount, while still not providing any useful content to our readers - and WP:NOTMIRROR is also a concern). Oppose redirect as sportsmen don't get exempt from other requirements just because they took part in sports, and we don't usually have redirects from non-notable names, unless there is some actual content at the target or the name might be a likely search term (neither of which is the case); and on the grounds that if there is some actual content about this person, a red link will encourage actual article creation (instead of database scouring), and no functionality would be lost as searching for the name would likely yield the only other page where he is similarly trivially mentioned. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 05:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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