Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary M'Mukindia

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The result was speedy keep. Nominator withdrawal (non-admin closure) Goldsztajn (talk) 07:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mary M'Mukindia[edit]

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Article reads like a resume and promotional page linking to her personal website. Numerous broadly construed, and unverified claims about the topic, with little to no sources found anywhere. Megtetg34 (talk) 01:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Topic was center of bribery scandal, article needs re-written/updated but is notable. Withdraw[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 02:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 02:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: She was CEO of the Kenyan National Oil Corporation. The involvement in the Karua bribery scandal (not something that would be included in a puff-piece, by the way!) is also notable. Furius (talk) 12:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Wouldn't that be noted in the company article, i.e. National Oil Corporation of Kenya or politician article Martha Karua instead then where it happened? Based on WP:NBUSINESSPERSON criterion, I don't see there being enough to warrant her own article. The bulk of the article portrays her as a leader, business coach, businessperson per line 1, link to her personal website, etc. If notability is solely based on scandal with other parties, my thought is that it should be noted in the articles where there is enough to coverage of the topics to support notability. Megtetg34 (talk) 15:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The NOCK is a billion dollar company (not that wiki's article makes that at all clear). Its CEOs are notable in the same way as CEOs of Fortune 500 and FTSE companies are. Look, here's an academic article which discusses M'Mukindia's management of the company and its aftermath: [1]. The political scandal wasn't just with other parties - she was the central party. Certainly, the article needs a re-write to focus on these things rather than the business coaching. Furius (talk) 15:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Man, today has not been my best day. It definitely puts her as a central figure, not an accessory. Appreciate the feedback. I'll withdrawal. Megtetg34 (talk) 03:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: her resignation in connection with the scandal Furius mentions was significant enough to be covered on its own by Kenyan media sources [2] [3]. Page as currently written doesn't really touch on why this is notable and should be rewritten, but I think notability exists here. Chajusong (talk) 12:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Totally agree. Unfortunately, I've come across articles lately with missing information. Regardless, facts are facts and that's what matters. Megtetg34 (talk) 03:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Its withdrawn - see above please close Victuallers (talk) 08:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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