Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Gage Peterson Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of schools in Chicago Public Schools. Strictly speaking, SCHOOLOUTCOMES doesn't apply any more anyway (though it's an incessantly re-litigated issue), however as was pointed out it wouldn't apply to elementary schools in any case. Strong consensus is met that there aren't sufficient sources with depth to prove more than existence, and thus a redirect is justified. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Gage Peterson Elementary School[edit]

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Per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES there is no inherent notability for elementary schools. The sources do not seem to establish GNG, as they are largely (ed.) not RS (e.g. PR Newswire, Vimeo), or not WP:INDEPENDENT (the school's own website). There are a handful of RS sources (e.g. NBC Chicago affiliate), however, these are almost entirely incidental, fleeting mentions. Chetsford (talk) 18:25, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 21:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 21:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There are a few hits on google news, but all amount to brief mentions that don't pass as 'significant'. That being said, there are some sources in the article that look ok, for example, looking at this one: [1] (a fixed URL for an archived source already in the article), I'm seeing this one as a good article from a reliable source with what appears to be a decent editorial team. The article itself seems to have a lot of good and useful information about staff, alumni, etc, and seems to be written fairly neutrally and it would be a shame to lose this info. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 22:53, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More stuff comes up if you take the 'mary gage' bit off the name and tweak the search a bit [2]. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 22:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In spirit, I agree that it's not good to lose information. That said, the useful information in the article seems to principally come from the school's own website so would be preserved following deletion, just not on WP. Chetsford (talk) 23:10, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chetsford: That's fair, I'm not saying keep, somewhere in the middle at the moment, but just wanted to bring this stuff up that I found in the search. I also just want to point out that there is no such thing as 'inherent notability' and that WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is not an SNG that creates a 'presumption' of notability (per the RfC linked there). You are however correct that elementary schools have never had nay support for presumption of notability. Also, in your nomination you say "as they are largely RS", but it is clear you mean "as they are largely not RS", you might want to fix that. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 23:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, thanks for the catch! Chetsford (talk) 23:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect - to List of schools in Chicago Public Schools. This is what we generally do with schools that don't quite make notability, and this one doesn't. John from Idegon (talk) 08:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect of course, per John from Idegon and per policy. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per John from Idegon. ^Semi_Hypercube ✎ 00:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per John from Idegon.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:36, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Seems fine. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 21:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.