Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin van Beynen

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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin van Beynen[edit]

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Journalist/Leader writer for a newspaper with a circulation of around 100,000, who has been criticised for some of his writing. I don't think the sources are sufficiently neutral (most are from the organisation he works for, and one from a rival newspaper) and I don't believe that they manage to establish notability. dramatic (talk) 00:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He is certainly notable if a rival outlet discusses him.Rick570 (talk) 01:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC) He won a major journalism award in 2010 and I have referenced the report from the Herald - so now two from a rival. The man's notability is pretty firmly established.Rick570 (talk) 04:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In case you hadn't noticed, our media are quick to jump on any whiff of scandal regarding their competitors (especially TVNZ vs TV3). I think for people working in the media there needs to be some proper biographical coverage which isn't attached to a particular event - e.g. a page or two in The Listener.dramatic (talk) 02:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The New Zealand Listener is part of the APN Network which includes The Herald which has covered him on an important and controversial issue (Bain). He has been noted personally by two important rival outletsRick570 (talk) 22:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. . "Otago Daily Times too.Rick570 (talk) 05:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep - winning a Qantas Media Award is definitely indication of his notability, though the article could definitely use some tidying/neutralising. Grutness...wha? 22:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Apparently passes the minimum criteria for notability but really this is another of those entries which make you think anyone deserves a wiki article if you try hard enough. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not sure a Qantas award is big since they give about 30 of them out each year. Would the NZ Network admin of the year or NZ train driver of the year rate an article? - SimonLyall (talk) 07:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I enjoy his writing but he does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals guidelines. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 09:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Everyone above knows of him. References from two news outlets (apart from his own) have been provided. He meets all the notability requirements.Rick570 (talk) 19:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How do you cfome up with that statement? I for one have certainly never heard of him. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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