Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Marinčin

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The result was keep. /ƒETCH COMMS / 02:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Marinčin[edit]

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Non-notable hockey player. Played in Slovakia's U20 league. Overdrawn Invader (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Marincin played in Slovakia's top professional league, as a member of Slovakia's U20 team. Canada Hky (talk) 03:56, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - per Gene93k. Nominator gives no valid reason why this player should be considered "non-notable". Just because he played in the U20 league doesn't make him non-notable. Playing in the Slovak Extraliga does make him notable though. Rlendog (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Non notable hockey player who currently fails WP:NHOCKEY. Cannot find any confirmation that he actually played in the Slovak Extraliga. The U-20 team is a junior level team and not a part of the top league that would make him notable should he had played in it. -Pparazorback (talk) 18:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The U20 is not a junior level team per se. They are a Slovak Extraliga team (HK Orange 20) made up of Slovakia's best junior prospects. Elite Prospects shows him playing for Team Slovakia U20 (HK Orange 20) (Link), also, an Edmonton Journal interview Link, TSN.ca shows HK Orange 20 as his club team Link Canada Hky (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You beat me to this. HK Orange 20 is a Slovak Extraliga team. Rlendog (talk) 19:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I go back and forth on this one. We used to delete junior players who were playing in top level leagues but were playing as a junior not a pro. ie the were playing in the pro league but as an unpaid junior. But that was before the change from wp:athlete to the new wp:nsports. -DJSasso (talk) 19:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He plays in the top division in a country that is significant, even though his team is semi-pro/amateur. Patken4 (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Fails WP:NHOCKEY because he has not played on a senior national team. Sources provided do not provide significant coverage of this junior hockey player. A search for other sources doesn't come up with much, therefore fails WP:N. Auseplot (talk) 22:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: He passes criteria 1 of NHOCKEY: "Played one or more games in an existing or defunct top professional league such as the National Hockey League, World Hockey Association, Elitserien, SM-liiga, or Kontinental Hockey League" by playing in the Slovak Extraliga. Canada Hky (talk) 03:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Given the fact that the Slovakia Extraliga is "an existing...top professional league," and thus, by virtue of having played in that league, Marinčin passes the letter of WP:NHOCKEY. On the other hand, Marinčin was playing in that league on a particular team because he was a junior player, not a pro; as such, one could make the case that he is notable only through a loophole in the criteria. This is all pretty dicey, but I don't think it would be proper to delete the article at this time. Passing the guideline through a loophole, if that's what this is, still constitutes passing the guideline. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 10:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, Non-notable hockey player. He hasn't played on a senior national team and he did not play in the Slovak Extraliga (he played on their junior league) so he doesn't pass WP:NHOCKEY. Overdrawn Invader (talk) 14:27, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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