Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Krňávek

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The result was keep‎. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Krňávek[edit]

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Non-notable Olympic athlete. Fails WP:NSPORT, searches for English and Czech sources only turned up routine coverage. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Czech Republic. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 14:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure this guy is notable. He seems to get a fair bit of press coverage in RS such as Rozhlas Česká televize and HN. Leaning towards keep. The ČT source mentions he won a world championship race, though he isn't listed on the World Triathlon Cup page, so I'm not sure how to interpret that. I am, admittedly, completely ignorant about the inner workings of triathlon – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:26, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
He won an individual WC race, but not the World Cup series. JoelleJay (talk) 21:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cycling-related deletion discussions. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:39, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Definitely notable, has coverage per above and won multiple World Cup titles as well as two national championships and a bronze medal at the European championsips. This passes the notaibility guideline. Article needs to be redone, but that is not a reason for deletion. Seacactus 13 (talk) 14:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain how being a bronze medalist at the European championships, as well as nultiple World Cup wins does not meet GNG or NSPORTS? Seacactus 13 (talk) 01:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read either of those guidelines? JoelleJay (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly not as they quoted a criteria I didn't even mention. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I agree with filelakeshoe and Seacactus 13. This retired Olympic athlete is notable and there's a room for improvement/expansion. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the sources linked by Filelakeshoe would be appreciated.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It fails WP:GNG, WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:SIGCOV. Agreed with other editors. CastJared (talk) 09:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no source analysis.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 15:14, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep. Looking at the sources presented in the first comment, CT about his retirement has about four paragraphs, including the statement Před dvanácti lety vyhrál Martin Krňávek jako první Čech v historii závod světového poháru v triatlonu. Jeden z našich nejúspěšnějších triatlonistů ukončil svou kariéru právě dnes na mistrovství republiky v Brně, translated as "Twelve years ago, Martin Krňávek became the first Czech in history to win a world cup race in triathlon. One of our most successful triathletes ended his career just today at the national championship in Brno." Rozhlas looks decent, with about eight paragraphs. Then the other piece is paywalled but the title makes it seem like potential SIGCOV: Nemůžu ani sedět, směje se Krňávek, který na MS v dlouhém triatlonu vybojoval 5. místo ("I can't even sit, laughs Krňávek, who won 5th place at the World Championships in the long triathlon"). Considering this plus the accomplishments for a foreign country about two decades ago (two Olympics, several national championships, medalist at the European championships), I think we have enough for a weak keep. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per BeanieFan11. The reasons for keeping outweigh. FromCzech (talk) 06:07, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per filelakeshoe's sources. –dlthewave ☎ 03:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. BilledMammal (talk) 04:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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