Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marshall Plumlee

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 00:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall Plumlee[edit]

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fails WP:NBASKETBALL and I argue that he fails WP:NCOLLATH as well as WP:NSPORTS for high school athletes. Marshall Plumlee's notability is based on his passing WP:GNG for having two WP notable basketball player brothers, for being a notable, in a non-WP sense, college basketball recruit, and for forecasting that he may someday be a WP notable basketball player. Aside from coming from a famous basketball family, his most notable achievement is being a high school McDonalds all-American, but this alone doesn't let him pass WP notability for high school athletes. Mayumashu (talk) 20:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I looked through 55,800 results on google it looks like it passes WP:GNG and WP:NHSPHSATH to me. Theworm777 (talk) 03:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Easily passes GNG. He has the requisite RS coverage; that is all that he needs.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We have a very high bar for college athletes, his coverage fails WP:ROUTINE for these purposes and WP:NOTINHERITED because so much of it is due to his brothers. J04n(talk page) 20:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi J04n. I believe that the GNG bar -- the one alluded to in the keep !votes -- is no lower or higher for a college athlete than for any other bio. I also think that NOTINHERITED is meant to protect against situations such as Jimmy Carter's brother Billy Carter, where a relative of a notable person did nothing of note other than drink beer. But oh wait ... we do have an article on Billy Carter. Anyway, such is not the case here ... Plumlee has a great deal of coverage with regard to his basketball accomplishments as well as his being a brother of other notable basketball players; the two are intertwined, and the RS coverage is IMHO sufficiently high. --Epeefleche (talk) 21:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, I must disagree about the significant coverage, it is routine coverage, similar to anyone who plays for a major college basketball team like Duke. J04n(talk page) 21:49, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Anyone who plays for a major college basketball team?" What percentage of college basketball players were McDonalds All Americans? Players at major college basketball teams who were McDonalds All Americans tend to attract a good deal of RS coverage, and so it is here ... it is greater coverage than one would tend to see with a college player at a major college who is not a McDonalds All American. But it is the coverage, not that he is an All American, that I focus on.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Darkwind (talk) 03:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - in reality, I don't think this guy is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article (especially since we can't agree that players in the Greek top league aren't "likely notable"), but he does (barely) pass GNG. GNG is kind of a joke IMO, but its what we have. Rikster2 (talk) 15:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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