Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Henderson

This is a new discussion for the current version of the Mark Henderson wiki. It currently has been hijacked from its orginal purpose as a page for Mark Henderson of the Snow Bowl fame, and is being used for MArk Henderson, lighting director. Mark Henderson, lighting director is of considerable less fame and notoriety than the Mark Henderson of the Snow Bowl fame. The current article is barely a 2 line blurb on the lighting director, and should be deleted, possibly reverted back to the original purpose, and at most a disambiguation link be added for the lighting director. Alternativly, the current article on the lighting director should be merged with the tony awards page it links to.

Feel free to edit this to the correct format. I tried to make a new page for this discussion, as it is on a different subject than the previous AfD, but was not able to.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was redirect to History of the New England Patriots, where content is already. - Liberatore(T) 17:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Mark Henderson

Very close to a speedy. No documentation offered (date this game was played?), but perhaps some hardcore American football fans can confirm whether or not this "famous" incident ever took place. -- Curps 18:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Actually, it did, in the 1982 playoffs, and engendered a change in the league rules concerning such things. Even as a Patriots' fan, though, since this was the only remotely newsworthy event of Henderson's life, I can't in good conscience give this one a keep. I'd Merge it into the Pats' article at best.Redirect and Delete; see below. RGTraynor 18:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete We should only have biographical articles if there is a reasonable liklihood of being able to put together a full life story up to date of death, whenever it happens, and I doubt anyone will publish his obituary. Hawkestone 19:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Actually, I'm sure they will, as it was a significant event in football in the 1980s (there's a reasonable, but biased, summary here). However, I think this article would be better if it were to undergo a rename as The Snow Plow Game (which currently redirects to National Football League lore, where it can be found in the 80s list), with more info about the game and Henderson's effect on it. I'm not a Patriots expert but User:Deckiller is, and might be able to expand it under this new name.--Mike Selinker 20:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. After looking at the NFL Lore page, that's all this incident needs. This needs no more than to redirect there. RGTraynor 20:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, or merge into New England Patriots. Insufficiently notable for a bio article; doubtful whether this is an important enough part of the team's or sport's history to be worth even a one-sentence mention. Barno 19:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Changing vote to redirect to National Football League lore in agreement with RGTraynor. Even to someone looking up "the Snowplow Game", will the plower's name or his ex-con status be relevant to the story? Barno 22:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into History of the New England Patriots (or New England Patriots if people agree that it's significant enough to be placed in a concise summary section). — Deckiller 20:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I didn't notice it there. That's really all that needs to be said, until someone decides to write a full article. So I'd agree with the merge into History of the New England Patriots (rather than New England Patriots) at this time.--Mike Selinker 20:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah. One of the major debates during the Patriots' FA bid was how much infomation to include in the actual article itself. As a matter of fact, I just finished fixing up an excellent addition about the Hartford deal that I think borderlines inclusion, and the main article could use some more "lore" information" to even out the edges. — Deckiller 20:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• I vote to keep this page -- Mark
• Speedy delete / BJAODN. This doesn't come anywhere near close to WP:N. Tijuana Brass 01:07, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, a definite keep. Should be expanded, not merged. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 04:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Why? How is this a noteworthy person that belongs in Wikipedia? It's like doing an article on some kid that gets to mop the free throw lane at an NBA game. Tijuana Brass 07:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Your typical mopper at an NBA game isn't highlighted time and time again in highlight reels and best of moment lists. This guy is. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 14:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep per some notability. A merge into National Football League Lore would also work though. Seeing as how it's already on the NFL Lore page, it's tough to say whether this deserves a keep. This article needs to be improved on, though. --Wizardman 00:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.