Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marie Ljalková

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. GTBacchus^(talk) 22:25, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Ljalková[edit]

No real notability claimed, although she had a pretty productive military career. Google pulls less ~125 hits. Delete --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 10:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete nn-bio Gu 11:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I originally removed the speedy due to the fact that I thought she may have a claim to notability. However, after looking at this list of snipers I see that she does not. If in this case notability is claimed by the number of kills then there are alot more deserving of an article than Ljalková. We have two female snipers from that list Lyudmila Pavlichenko and Nina Alexeyevna Lobkovskaya. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- While there seems to be several reasons why Lyudmila_Pavlichenko can be seen as notable, Nina Alexeyevna Lobkovskaya looks more similar to the case of Marie Ljalková and should maybe also deleted if this one is. Gu 11:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It's worth noting that snipercentral.com is a very poor source of information on historical persons, since it's been caught editing in its own members names as "famous historical snipers!" before, inflating kill numbers, and similar indiscretions, just FYI Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 23:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep, google indicates very little because the Western-centric internet does not have many records on Soviet heros, for that you must turn to books. She is verifiable, and Wikipedia helps combat western ignorance of foreign veterans. Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 19:54, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I speak english very little, unfortunately. What is "pretty productive military career" ? You need more info ? Nina Lobkovskaya has so brevity biografy. Is not problem. I look trouble only with text in English. I need helph - repair errors and redaction this text. User:Snipermouche
Weak Keep - marginally notable Jonas Silk 14:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Stifle 22:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stifle 22:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non verifiable sniper. Haven't stumbled across the name yet from Snipershide.com ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 00:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep Reasonably notable. One of the few female snipers with that many kills, and the only Czech one. Apperars to be verifiable: there is a reference in the article. Certainly more notable than many other people than have been kept (e.g. musicians) Imarek 00:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep per Imarek, but without the music bias. KillerChihuahua^?!? 10:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: also per Sherurcij, combat systemic bias. KillerChihuahua^?!? 10:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, notable sniper, appears verified. Sandstein 08:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.