Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/March for Life (Prague)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Randykitty (talk) 14:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

March for Life (Prague)[edit]

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Apparently non-notable event; checked sources on Czech version of article and they all seem to be unreliable and/or affiliated with the protest, meaning there's not enough reliable independent coverage for notability. The user who removed it has a grand total of two other mainspace edits and removed it because I am a "known pro-abortionist," which I'm sure we can all agree is totally policy-compliant and not a questionable situation at all. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:56, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔ 04:36, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I was pretty sure this was going to be a keep after visiting the piece in the Chesky WP and seeing there were about 15 annual marches listed. Yes, the sourcing there is terrible, per nom. Then I took a look at the internets for "Pochod pro život v České republice," which is the title of the piece there and found fuck-all. I remain of the belief that an annual protest event with 15 or so happenings is going to be the subject of substantial coverage in multiple sources.... Hmmm, trying again for "Pochod pro život" + "Praha"...... Ah, that's better... Still not seeing any sources, however. Check the newspapers, so to speak. Carrite (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I did this search and didn't come up with anything that was obviously a reliable secondary source. Event listings, promotional pages, and so on. Just because it happens every year doesn't make it notable if no one covers it. (I could have sworn there was an ATA for that, but the nearest I can find is THISNUMBERISHUGE.) –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the news sources covering Czech March of Life are religious (catholic) media, some of them (such as Radio Proglas or TV NOE) are notable. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 13:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Even if we accepted that niche sources who in many cases are affiliated with the event are reliable at all, the first one is certainly unusable as an event announcement (not news coverage). –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. Here is an article in Hospodářské noviny which is not mere "event announcement". Jihoceskenovinky.cz (which is rather a regional but reliable and acceptable source) says that politicians such as Pavel Bělobrádek attended the march in 2013. Here is an article on the blog of the Czech Television, a mainstream Czech TV, written by Ferdinand Peroutka jr., nephew of the famous Czech journalist of the same name. Here is another article published by Týden, a notable and reliable Czech mainstream magazine. ČTK, national news agency in the Czech Republic regularly reports about the event [1], similarly as Czech Radio [2], [3]. I would say that the march is of sufficient public interest and I suggest to keep the article. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 10:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Again, most of these are unsuitable: they're press releases or otherwise obviously promotional, or they don't constitute the significant coverage that the notability guidelines require. I know I have higher standards for notability than some other users (ie. I don't think "it exists" is really our standard), so we'll just have to see if other people think a single proper source or two sources really support notability. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The sources I listed here do not publish promotional press releases or articles on request. They are neutral and suggest that the subject (March for Life) is a topic of public discussion. They also say more than simple "it exists". I'll work on the article. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:00, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded the article with the sources available, I believe it is now neutral and informative. The participation of the Prague's archbishop and politicians (deputies and senators) across the parties + media coverage suggest it is notable. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Passes GNG per sources cited by Vejvančický above. For the record, I myself strongly support the other team in the abortion debate, which shouldn't have anything to do with anything. Carrite (talk) 22:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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