Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mambo Kurt

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus in this short discussion is that the subject qualifies for an article per available sources. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:26, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mambo Kurt[edit]

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Fails WP:CREATIVE. Cwobeel (talk) 04:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Mambo Kurt real name "Rainer Limpinsel". Did the nom. really perform the due diligence of WP:BEFORE? Immediately, I found a book, in French, that has several pages devoted to Mambo Kurt, 107-112. It starts out (translated) How six Germans from Schwerin, a small town in East Germany, have revolutionized metal music and reinvigorated what we thought was a moribund German music scene. Barde, Antoine; Jauniaux, Pierre; Verry, Patrice (2006). Rammstein: les crasheurs de feu (in French). Rosières-en-Haye (Meurthe-et-Moselle): Camion Blanc. ISBN 978-2-910196-91-2. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |lastauthoramp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help) Then I found two pages in Grisko Michael (2000). Fernsehperspektiven: Aspekte zeitgenössischer Medienkultur (Television perspectives: aspects of contemporary media culture) (in German). Kassel, Hesse, Germany: Hessische Landesanstalt für privaten Rundfunk. pp. 75–76. ISBN 978-3-929061-79-6.. Did the nom. look at the German Wikipedia article and the material there? There is substantial coverage in independent sources, it is just not yet documented in the English article. The Barde book supports the proposition that Mambo Kurt meets the requirements of WP:CREATIVE. --Bejnar (talk) 01:40, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't speak German and my French is very basic, so these sources were not visible to me. If there is a well sourced article in the German Wikipedia, be kind enough to add material from there and provide sources. Cwobeel (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would but my French is pathetic, modern music is not my scene, and I have other priorities. I have posted a request for assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians#Mambo Kurt, but while it is nice to improve an article during an Afd, it is not necessary. The purpose of Afds is to remove articles that don't belong not to improve those that do, although it is a nice side effect in many cases. --Bejnar (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per Bejnar's articulate, well-researched, thorough summary. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:49, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Bejnar and the sources evident in the German version. --Arxiloxos (talk) 13:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.