Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maidan (Persian)

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maidan (Persian)[edit]

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Not clear what its subject is. At best, it belongs in Wiktionary, not here. Maproom (talk) 16:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rather unhelpfully, the article creator decided to make his flawed and questionable article the primary topic of the disambiguation page, Maidan, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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What a mess. Going back to the original version of the article, before it got littered with a lot of other stuff, it appears to be a somewhat jumbled fork of Persian wine, which makes no mention of this word -- the closest being Mey as an alternative title in its lead. Unless someone can come along and find what the article topic is in all this mess, it has to go -- or perhaps the passages on ancient Persian wine festivals can be saved, merged. I'll hold off !voting to see if that happens. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:30, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as it stands. It could perhaps be turned into a useful article, but not one having anything to do with wine. A maidan is a town square or open marketplace. The word has entered languages from South Asia to Eastern Europe and many cities have maidans. This could potentially be a useful article, and the current articles gestures in that direction, but as it stands this article is an incomprehensible hodgepodge. Srnec (talk) 00:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(with slight regret) DElete -- I see no connection between wine and racecourses: it looks to me like a confection of two unrelated subjects, but I do not really know. It might possibly be able to survive as two separate Wiktionary articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as I said on the talk page, I can't even tell what this article is supposed to be about. Rex Iudaeorum (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete we're all equally befuddled. There has been no improvement. We can't even agree what the topic might be. Wine? Squares? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:49, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also believe it is better to delete the Maidan (Persian) because Maidan already exists. However, here is not the etymology of the word. I try to clarify this topic as a non-native speaker. It is evident that the word Maidan originated from the Persian word "Mai", "Mey", "May", Mi" for wine - depending on the articulation of the Persian language into the respective Iranian empire - and from the Persian localsuffix "dan". The suffix "dan" is a suffix for infinitives as well as for local formation and means space of ..., container of ..., vase of ..., shell of.May e Mughan (Persian: مى مغان‎‎) means wine of Mughan. see too Persian wine. According to this, Maidan means literally place of wine, or dish of wine or cup of wine. After the adoption of the Arabic script and Islamization, the speakers of the Persian and Iranian languages also say "Shar ab" (Shahr means "Evil" and "ab" means water for wine or alcoholic drings). From Arabic شربة (šarba, "drink")! -an, May ye Nab (pure wine), Ab e Angor (water of grapes), Meykhana (wine house or music house, Kharabat (poetry). It is better if an Iranist would look at the text for Etymology.

Qand+dan (bowl of candies)
Shekar+dan (shell for sugar)
Gul+dan (flower vase)
Khak+dan (waste)
Deg+dan (stove or place of pot)
Abad+dan (city in Iran means place of built houses)
Hama+dan (city in Iran, means place of all)
Zahedan (city in Iran, means place of Eremits)

By Mey e Nab is a poetic expression. Jam e Mey (Cup of Wine) or Jam e Sharab or Badeh (Weinglas) are also available in various poems by Persian poets. Meydan e Rostam, there are very many in the Iranian Empire, In the course of time Meydan means as a place or as a Square. Jam-e-jam Jaam-e Jam, http://www.jjtvn.ir/ , Jame Jam TV, The old map of Iran looks like a half shell and the two seas of the Caspian and Black Sea over the shell of Jamshid. But this is symbolic, allegorical. I hope I have not contributed even more to confusion in the Topic. The English-Persian dictionaries from John Richardson or Steingass or John Shakespear can be helpful Tabnak (talk) 19:24, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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