Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mai Goto (actress)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus leaning towards keep. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 19:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mai Goto (actress)[edit]

Non-notable actress. Not even any assertion of notability in this article, but previous prod was declined, so bringing it here for discussion. Complete lack of coverage in WP:RS, so this person fails WP:BIO. Valrith (talk) 16:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. ——Quasirandom (talk) 17:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. She did have a role in Ichi the Killer, which seems to be a notable film. Whether or not she is notable I'm not sure of yet. Pburka (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ Neutral ~~no evidence of~~ unable to evaluate notability. JJL (talk) 00:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Japanese sources linked list abotu a dozen film roles, aside from her own DVDs. What notability she has is not being asserted very well in this article. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If she's notable enough for Yahoo[1], she should be notable enough for Wikipedia. According to Yahoo, in addition to the movie, tv, and dvd credits, she is named in the title of a TV show (loosely translated as "Goto Mai's 'I like Wine'", of which I can't find very much info about), and also in the title of at least one book published in Japan. Neier (talk) 12:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are plenty of articles just like that on other East Asian celebrities. However, the style of writing is often excessively wordy or requires cleanup in one way or another: this is due to the fact that most East Asians speak their native tongue ten times better than English and so this limits them in a way. Many are still bound to tradition and whatnot, although they're trying really hard to become modernized. Also in East Asian languages (or at least Chinese and Japanese, as far as I'm concerned) they tend to use a lot of terms that are detailed and make perfect sense to any other native speaker, however when translated to English the words just seem to be backwards or too detailed because English lacks some of the terms they use in their native tongue. But back on track, people who contributed to that article probably wanted to write more about Goto but weren't sure how to do it. I think that we just need to find a few sources and write more for it. If we deleted it it would be a waste, and there's nowhere to merge it to. ― LADY GALAXY 16:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Redfarmer (talk) 19:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This model/actress is fairly well known to Western fans of Asian pop. (I don't know whether she is actually well known in Asia itself.) —SlamDiego_←T 02:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment She must be well known in Asia too. All of the Asian pop stars that Western fans like, they're even bigger in Asia. ― LADY GALAXY 05:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, probably. But I note that sometimes one has a Rula Lenska — someone made in country B to seem to be a bigger star in country A that (s)he really is. —SlamDiego_←T 05:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the time it doesn't work like that. But Leah Dizon is one example of what you just described. ― LADY GALAXY 15:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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