Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahane Israel (Chabad)

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The result was no consensus. NW (Talk) 13:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mahane Israel (Chabad)[edit]

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no indication of notability. References given do not mention the organisation under the name given. Machne Israel is mentioned but still does not indicate why it is notable - only that it exists. noq (talk) 23:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Sources provided don't specifically discuss the organization. Truthsort (talk) 23:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

correct me if im wrong but although some of the sources do not reference specifically this organisation they clearly state that this is one of the 3 main organisations of the worldwide chabad-lubavitch movement Mkonikov

Well, how can they clearly state that without referring to the organisation? noq (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Anyone with the faintest knowledge of Chabad knows that this organisation is highly notable. The article needs to be expanded, no doubt, but that doesn't make it a candidate for deletion. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 19:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, talk about zealous nominating for AFD--on the same day that the article was created, today, it is being nominated for deletion! Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 19:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pages are routinely nominated for deletion on the day they are created. The article needs to show notability - not rely on people having knowledge of Chabad. noq (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let me quote:

From COL: Machne Israel Development Fund was established by the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, of blessed memory, in 1984, as a funding organization for sustaining the growth and expansion of Chabad-Lubavitch activities worldwide.

From Ask Moses: In addition to the establishment of the Lubavitch Yeshivos Tomchei Tmimim in the U.S.A. and Canada, the Rebbe founded Machne Israel, Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch, Beth Rivkah and Beth Sarah schools for Jewish girls, and the Kehot Publication Society, dedicated to the issue of books in the true spirit of Torah and tradition.

From New York Times: His father-in-law, who had arrived in the United States a year earlier, appointed him to head several Lubavitch organizations, including Merkos L'inyonei Chinuch, the group's educational arm, and Machne Israel, a social service organization.

Mkonikov (talk) 21:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MAHANE Israel is not mentioned - is Machne Israel the correct name? That does make them mentioned in the articles but I still don't see anything in the article itself that distinguishes this organisation from any of the tens of thousands of charities in the world that could state similar aims. noq (talk) 23:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being that it's after all just a transliteration from the hebrew name מחנה ישראל it can and will end up being spelled in multiple different ways (Machne Yisrael, Machne Israel, Machane Israel etc.)

What distinguishes it from other charities is the fact that it is the foundation of the worldwide chabad movement here in the US ever since it's founding in 1950sMkonikov (talk) 03:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Machne Israel is the standard spelling that the organization uses (e.g. here). I've fixed it. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 04:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 01:05, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it have to be distinguished from all other jewish social organizations? see Category:Jewish communal organizations. Larryyr (talk) 20:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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