Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MChad

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MChad[edit]

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No clear evidence of notability. Seems he still has yet to sign a record deal. Mention of a future (WP:CRYSTAL) release that will be released "independently". Dweller (talk) 10:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question - The publication "The Garden Island" is referenced multiple times in the article. Does anyone know if this is a reliable, independent source? VQuakr (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Answer - Yes, this is a reliable, independence source. The Garden Island is Kauai, Hawaii's only major newspaper and more info can be found at the following link: http://thegardenisland.com/app/our_newspaper/about_us/ Keep in mind, not all articles are available online due to a limited staff. Thegardenisland (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, and to answer Dweller: That should not be not categorized under (WP:CRYSTAL) because there is a citation and reference to that independent release through his Twitter status, which makes it 100% valid because it is a firsthand source. Thegardenisland (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter is not a reliable source, and nor are most first-hand sources, when establishing notability. Who is going to say that they are only a minor player in the big game of life, especially when they are trying to sell something? We need independent coverage - and I'm not too happy about your claim for The Garden Island being a reliable source, in view of your username. This appears to show a connection with a company or organisation, which is against our policy on usernames WP:USERNAME. Peridon (talk) 10:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't seem to have done much of note, apart perhaps from the wise move of continuing his education. I wish him luck either way. I do wish that people would understand the difference between notoriety and fame, however. Quite a few rappers do seem to be notorious, and others try to appear notorious (but aren't). Notoriety is fame for something like being a pirate, being a serial bigamist, or being a continual sockpuppeteer on Wikipedia. Fame is when a lot of people have heard of you for rather better reasons (so far as the main part of society is concerned). Peridon (talk) 21:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't satisfy WP:NM. — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• ^Speak! 03:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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