Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lynne Lund

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The result was delete. Consensus is that being deputy leader of a political is not enough for WP:NPOL -- RoySmith (talk) 22:09, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lynne Lund[edit]

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Lund is the deputy leader of the Green Party of Prince Edward Island. This isn't an inherently notable position - AFAIK, we usually only have articles on Canadian deputy leaders if they merit one through some external notability or through holding an elected office. Neither of these applies to Lund. WP:NPOL, WP:POLOUTCOMES, and MOS:CA#Politics. Madg2011 (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - deputy leader of a provincial party that both holds one seat and is polling higher than the NDP [1] and tied with the PC's in another poll. [2] Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not denying that the GPPEI is notable. That notability just doesn't automatically extend to a deputy leader who's never held elected office. Lund doesn't meet GNG or any of the three guidelines I linked above. Madg2011 (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:POLOUTCOMES - "Leaders of registered political parties at the national or major sub-national (state, province, prefecture, etc.) level are sometimes considered notable despite their party's lack of electoral success.". You can't have the word deputy leader without the word leader. She's still a leader of the party, and thus notable. Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, leaders of minor parties are fair game, but "deputy leader" is a position defined by internal party policy, not by any electoral agency. It doesn't confer the same notability. Madg2011 (talk) 19:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That criterion does not include deputy leaders — it's for the alpha leader only, and not for the deputies. And even then, the leader still has to actually pass WP:GNG as the subject of media coverage about their work in that role — the person does not get an automatic "no valid sources required" inclusion freebie just for the fact of being a party leader. If the depth and breadth of media coverage simply isn't there, and thus a standalone article has to rely on primary sources rather than reliable ones, then the leader does not get a standalone BLP separate from having their name mentioned in the article on the party. Bearcat (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the Deletion alerts! at WikiProject Green Politics.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Me-123567-Me (talk • contribs) 18:37, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Being deputy leader of a political party is enough for a Wikipedia article if the person can be sourced to enough media coverage about her to pass WP:GNG for it — but being deputy leader of a political party is not an automatic WP:NPOL freebie just because the person exists, and the sourcing present here (which is 5/7 primary sources that cannot support notability at all, and 2/7 routine coverage of a by-election that she ran in, which would still have existed whether she was a candidate or not because such coverage of by-elections always exists) is not enough to get her past GNG. Bearcat (talk) 19:20, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as noted by Bearcat, she hasn't won a seat yet and as "deputy leader" of the PEI Greens, she doesn't meet the bar for WP:NPOL. PK T(alk) 14:13, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: deputy leader of a political party is not one of the criteria for inclusion per WP:NPOL. Little sustained coverage. DrStrauss talk 13:11, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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