Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louise Wightman

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 16:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Louise Wightman

Former exotic dancer, fraud[1] with an unaccredited degree. Fails WP:BIO. The website and blog links show this is vanity. Arbusto 21:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Delete redirect: Lucy Wightman. Arbusto 21:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Just read the Boston Globe article linked to the article. She's had frequent newspaper/magazine/TV coverage up here for years. Vanity argument is damn silly, who writes a Wikipedia entry to report their own indictment and fraudulent credentials, eh? VivianDarkbloom 20:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

How about this article meets WP:V? The claim that she has a PhD? The claim that she was in Playboy? The she is is allowed to practice as a psychotherapist? Seeing her links, modeling information looks like vanity, and another user reverted information citing WP:AUTOBIO.[2] Arbusto 00:27, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nominator's comments. Also, media coverage - even substantial media coverage by a well-known news source - does not equal encyclopedic notability. e.g. see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/George_Allen_Smith. In any case, I ran a Factiva search, and this woman's story has appeared in less than 20 or so articles since February 2005, with the coverage almost entirely limited to Boston area newspapers Bwithh 03:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, meets WP:BIO with multiple reliable, verifiable sources. (BTW, I'm amused by that comment "less than 20 or so articles" - 20 newspaper articles that aren't just reprints of each other is a LOT, and easily meets nearly any notability or verifiability standard we have.)
  • Boston Herald article says: "possibly the most famous exotic dancer ever in this town" [3]
  • The Patriot Ledger says "legendary" in regards to her work as a stripper [4] and even writes about psychs that disclaim association with her [5]
  • Fox 25 also says "legendary" and has a whole series on the psychiatrist story: [6] [7] [8] [9]
  • Boston Globe has a very long article with photos: [10]
  • Salon.com has echoes of the Globe [11]
  • People magazine wrote about Lucy's engagement to Cat Stevens before any psychotherapist business [12]

Needing citations for a few facts is not reason to delete the article, at most to delete the uncited facts - the important facts are backed by these notable, reliable sources. Frankly, I don't care about the fraud line so much - she would still be notable for her career as a famous stripper. Being a bodybuilder, radio host, Playboy model, engaged to Cat Stevens, on top of it makes for a very interesting article, even without the psych scandal. By the way, here is a citation for the Playboy appearance [13] AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep She has been well known in New England for thirty years. The links to her blog and website are a balance to the links of unfavourable articles.Dubhdara 04:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.