Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loren Weisman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 02:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Loren Weisman[edit]

I don't believe this article's subject meets the criteria for inclusion at WP:BIO, WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. The article has been previously tagged for its overly promotional tone, although the tag was removed with none of the suggested changes made. I am unable to find much outside information about Mr. Weisman that wasn't written BY him. Joyous! | Talk 00:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some of this content since the story was started a week and some ago. I am doing a research project on Music producers that are using different ways and approaches to help the music industry. I have grabbed a good deal of information from the various sites that are affiliated with Loren. However, there are numbers of sites with some listed as links of press releases, reviews and other information validating Loren and his work. What steps should be taken or additional information would be preferred? Thanks, Taylor Derringer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derringer48 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a couple other items in the external links that I did not find directly from the primary sites. Is that better? Should there be more? I would like to make this page work and am new to Wikipedia. I am happy for any critique and criticism. Thanks. Taylor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derringer48 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks very fishy to me. And at the risk of being rude, I wouldn't be surprised if User:Derringer48 is a WP:SOCK. On the other hand, it would be a shame to squelch an unbiased editor who actually had this level of enthusiasm. ^L_Wizard @ 03:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't see any evidence of notability to meet inclusion guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for failure to meet WP:BIO and WP:CORP. There's too much 'padding' that doesn't directly relate to Weisman as an individual and most of the bio is lifted straight from his website. There's nothing from an independent source that establishes his notability. Eddie.willers (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: does not meet WP:MUSICBIO. JamesBurns (talk) 07:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I have spent a little bit of time trimming away at this article, removing some of the promotional language, the blatant advertising, some of the questionable external links, and an entire section that I believe fails WP:CRYSTAL; but the more I trim, the more I find to subsequently remove. It is possible that this article contains one or two bits of information that meet notability requirements, but they are buried deep and currently without reliable references. Steamroller Assault (talk) 22:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am finding this process new and helpful and take no offense to the criticism or doubts. I am still working to compile the information I can outside of the links I supplied before. The research project is on touring, session and ghost drummers that have gone to producing and create a mark in music from out behind the kit for an MI Institute project. Drummers like Stan Lynch, Steve Jordan, Butch Vig, Narada Michael Walden, Mark Prator and numerous others have gone the drummer to producer route. The research project gets additional credit in the course if the information is on wikipedia 6 weeks after being posted because of the double checking, scrutiny and content checking that occurs here. I am still pulling together information and the links that are being requested, though it is some what of a challenge since a lot of the behind the scenes work is credited quietly and under other names. I will continue to look up and do what ever I have to do for this article and thank you all for your help and ideas. Thank you for your editing Steamroller.

Taylor

Comment. I am not exactly sure what type of supporting information needs to be added to this article. After doing another search on Loren Weisman I found several hundred references to his past and current work that have not been posted personally by him. He is - by way of what people say about him - a very improtant influence on the music industry. If someone could figure out how to work these refrences into the article, would that help to strenghten it's validity?

The references that I found are:

Drumming/Production credits

1. Doug Hewitt
2. Chad Quist
3. Linq
4. Glen Stegner
5. Satisfied Drive
6. eNewsChannels

Reviews:

1. Afcollective Acoustic Network
2. Watercourse Recording Studio
3. Clane Gessel Photography
4. Tamara Lewis
5. Vimeo
6. Testimonials

Thanks for all the tips. Wikibgekh —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC).[reply]

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