Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liza del Mundo

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- puddleglum^2.0 00:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Liza del Mundo[edit]

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Potentially non-notable voice actress. No third party sources given in article (only one IMDB link in the article) and none found. Article potentially fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NACTRESS since she has only 1 main cast role in her repertoire. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 13:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I found two sources about her which together satisfy the "multiple reliable sources" requirement of the WP:GNG (and WP:BASIC), plus some additional content.
1. At least 2 (possibly 3) pages of a book – admittedly mostly photographs of her roles, but getting those still counts as major coverage, and there are descriptions as well: [1] (ISBN 0738555983 in case the link stops working)
2. This article (which also indicates that a news archive search for further sources could be useful): [2]
3. Also this (and related theatre sources), which while not about her specifically could be used to expand the article: [3] Modernponderer (talk) 09:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Modernponderer, I disagree with the first. They look like passing mention and not major coverage. The second looks to be notable and the third is more a first-party source as it's an interview. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  @User:Tyw7, a "passing mention" is something like a single sentence in an article on another topic. This source includes multiple pages of photos and descriptions of her roles. It absolutely contributes to notability, though it's an open question as to how much (which is why I included the third source to help tip the balance). Modernponderer (talk) 14:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  Modernponderer, I'm not sure how much weight is put into first-party sources ie interviews such as the third link. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 15:42, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  @User:Tyw7: I'm not sure what your point is here. That's not one of the main two sources I'm using to show notability. It's a supplementary source that could be used to expand the article. Modernponderer (talk) 01:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: There's a segment in this book where she's partially discussed. With that and the links indicated by Modernponderer, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 06:09, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Superastig, I don't have the book but it seems a passing mention? She was name-dropped as an "example." --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 08:05, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tyw7, I was able to get a few snippets in that magazine by searching her name. Here's a few excerpts from a certain article:

"...Liza Del Mundo, who stars as Mrs. Marcos."

"Liza Del Mundo has "it." Having co- starred in numerous television roles, such as in "The Bernie Mac Show" and "CSI: Miami," the Filipino American actor from San Diego already shows the determination and diligence to be a working actor..."

"For the lead in "Imelda," Del Mundo read every biography ever published about Mrs. Marcos, to deconstruct the icon and understand why she made the choices she did. The actor had to grasp how Imelda would have felt to lose the country, her husband and almost everything she cared for."

It's not a passing mention at all. The article is not just about the play Imeldific. Part of it explains Liza's career from starring in a number of TV shows to how she got to portray as the title role. Therefore, that also adds to her notability. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 01:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Superastig, well one notable source is not usually adequate and several is usually needed. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 11:04, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Her portrayal as Imelda is talked about in Variety and Talking Broadway; these are not passing mentions at all. This book mentions her as voiceover of Polaris in Wolverine and the X-Men and this also mentions her as voiceover of Hay Lin in W.I.T.C.H.

Tyw7, the sources Modernponderer and I indicated are considered multiple reliable sources since they fully or partially discuss Liza's acting career, including her portrayal as Imelda Marcos. Therefore, they're good enough for the article to pass WP:GNG (and perhaps WP:NACTOR). I have explained more than enough. And I won't reply from hereon. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 03:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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