Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of Albanians

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The result was keep. MBisanz ^talk 07:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of Albanians[edit]

This article is wayyyy to broad. Albania is a large place and many notable things occur there. If we had a article for "list of americans", then that article would be astronomically huge. This article provides no additional information about the people that a simple category wouldn't provide. Letsdrinktea (talk) 03:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The same argument could be made for every article listed in Category:Lists of people by nationality and besides, lists are helpful for red links, which a category cannot accomplish. Heck, the subgroup list List of Kosovo Albanians is still here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:WAX. The other lists you mentioned also amount to nothing more than a category. Letsdrinktea (talk) 04:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. These lists exists for all kinds of countries, and there's nothing wrong with this one except that it needs work. Incidentally, Ricky, I've just gone and removed some redliners, many of which seemed to me to be peacocky. Drmies (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't ask me. Redliners just need to have some sort of standard created. I mean, I assume everyone would agree that the Prime Ministers of the Ottoman Empire should be there, with red links. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 12:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete on principal: that categories would be best suited for these potential bloat-magnets. Not sure what the real gain is of having a place to store redlinks, but that may just be me. --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 04:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. -- Cerejota (talk) 07:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- Cerejota (talk) 07:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. -- Cerejota (talk) 07:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - These list allow for nuanced classifications, such as for professions or reason of notability, that categories simply do not allow. Worries about red-links are fixed by creating stubs for the red-links (one of the purposes of the lists) or in cases were no notability is evident by removal. not by deletion of a complete list. Encyclopedias need to cover the notables from any an all national group, and if it gets bloated, we do WP:SUMMARY. There much better solutions than hitting the delete button. ~~That is, unless one hates Albanians (or people wanting to find information about notables of a given nationality)...~~--Cerejota (talk) 08:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutdan requested I strike so I did.--Cerejota (talk) 12:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finding myself go off on a tangent here; I'm continuing this on the talk page. --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 13:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Cerejota (talk) 08:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In the long-run, it might be interesting to see how German wikipedia handles this sort of issues: see Category talk:Men and look at the corresponding German category...very interesting to say the least. Cazort (talk) 16:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - Notable and sourced. Badagnani (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep just like everywhere else. The criterion is, as always, having a Wikipedia article or being obviously qualified for one. The purpose of the redlinks where we do not have articles is to encourage people to write them. We can assume that many people adding one item to this list will be interested and able to add others, and showing the need so prominently actually does work. DGG (talk) 00:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The list seems fine to me. Renaming it to something more descriptive, would be nice though. Dream Focus 12:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SALAT for being too broad. Tavix (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as with Tavix, the topic is too broad for a usable list to be made out of it. Themfromspace (talk) 04:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.