Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of years in Liechtenstein

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The result was keep. A discussion on whether to redirect / merge can happen after this AfD. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:36, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of years in Liechtenstein[edit]

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I redirected this to History of Liechtenstein, but was reverted. This list is nearly empty, and the few articles it points to are nearly empty as well (and could do with a discussion of their own). E.g. the first one, 2007 in Liechtenstein, just has a joke trivia entry. Perhaps the Template:Years in Liechtenstein could be added at the bottom of the "History" article to help people who really want to access these "years" articles. But for most readers, arriving at this "list of years" article and then the underlying individual years will just be a disappointment instead of something helpful. Fram (talk) 07:52, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Lists, and Europe. Fram (talk) 07:52, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You make very good points. I couldn't agree more on the articles such as 2007 in Liechtenstein and any others that are nothing more than a single event being deleted. You are also right on the fact that there really are not many 'year in' articles for Liechtenstein to begin with, so the article is in essence a lot of red links, which is certainly not much of a page. The reason I still created the article with this in mind is because every other European nation has one, and I felt that Liechtenstein should have one too. The years I added on the page were only until the year 1900, which is about as far back as I thought year in Liechtenstein articles would reasonably have a chance of being created, but that probably is a push too. I really hope I did not offend you when undoing your edit and I'm sorry if it looks like I disregarded it. That really wasn't what I meant to do, I even added a citation to remove the unsourced tag, but I understand that is not the issue with this article. I am going to edit the article again removing all year links until 2000, but if there is a problem with this as well, it makes sense if you would like to revert the article back to a redirect and Template:Years in Liechtenstein again, but I hope it doesn't come to that. One thing the article does have going for it is a link to the nation by decade, which is something the template does not include. I hope what I am saying makes sense and thank you for discussing your stance on the article rather deleting it, I am glad I was able to respond. Thanks, Johnson524 (talk) 12:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep All articles like this are fine, shouldn't have to have AFDs of them separately. If there isn't enough information for articles by years, do it by decades instead. We need a bot to get things listed in the many categories and sub-categories to properly populate these lists. Dream Focus 13:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have an actual argument to keep them? Because your current "keep" is just an "it's fine". Fram (talk) 13:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  All nations listed this way, it a complete set, look odd to have any of them missing. Dream Focus 14:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  So, no actual argument, thanks. Fram (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect both this list and the individual year articles to History of Liechtenstein. There is no reason to think such a small country would need by-year articles. The mere fact it's a country doesn't mean it needs a series of articles structured the same as countries hundreds or thousands of times larger. Make a Timeline of Liechtenstein if a bulleted format is preferred. Reywas92^Talk 13:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Monaco, San Marino, and Vatican City all have some degree of by year coverage and are far smaller. This is especially true for Monaco and San Marino, and I am currently working on the Vatican. -- Johnson524 (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, List of years in San Marino was created by you on 19 May 2022, so perhaps not really fair to include that one. As for e.g. Andorra, the page of "list of years..." links e.g. to 2010 in Andorra, which is a redirect to 2010s in Andorra, which has one single entry. One unsourced "scheduled" thing for the whole of the most recent decade. This is a good argument to delete / redirect more than just Liechtenstein, not to actually keep Liechtenstein. It is also indicative of why "keep this one, we have them for other countries" is not a valid argument either. Fram (talk) 14:34, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - Consistency is relevant in my opinion but I see what you mean. I have never worked with Andorra before but there is no argument for keeping a year in article which is a redirect. As per the article of discussion though, there are actually decent articles by year for Liechtenstein, so I don't think this article should meet the same fate as Andorra. -- Johnson524 (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At a minimum, Rename to Category:Decades in Liechtenstein and Merge annual articles into decades. The individual articles do not have enough content, and many of them do not even exist! Even after this merger there will not really be enough content, so that I would not oppose redirecting. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:28, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have edited the article down to it's key information. No more red links for all of the 1900's as those articles don't seem like they are going to be made anytime soon. The article now is reduced to its key information; links to the existing year in Liechtenstein articles for the 2000's, links to the decades of Liechtenstein pre-2000's as the years are currently unmade, and categories relating to years in Liechtenstein. I don't really see a reason the article should not be kept now. --Johnson524 (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:HEY, as the cruft has been removed. Bearian (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, it hasn't. E.g. the 2007 article still has that joke entry as only thing that actually happened that year. Fram (talk) 08:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  @Fram: Like I said earlier, I would be happy to ask for a deletion of that article, and I don't think there would be any opposition, but that shouldn't be the reason for the deletion of this article particularly. -- Johnson524 (talk) 22:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  
  @Fram: Ok, to remove this reason for the deletion of this article, I have just added multiple relevant events to the article 2007 in Liechtenstein and a sports section, making the article relevant and no longer in need of deletion 😃 --Johnson524 (talk) 00:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Not problematic anymore. LearnIndology (talk) 08:26, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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