Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of video games using Vulkan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, speedy deleted per WP:CSD G4 . -- ferret (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of video games using Vulkan[edit]

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This page was previously under List of games with Vulkan support and deleted per discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of games with Vulkan support. TarkusAB^talk 13:49, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This list was previously part of the Vulkan (API) article and no one has ever objected to it/its existence. Once I moved it into a separate article (since the original article has become quite large) it's now grounds for deletion? Not gonna argue with it. Suit yourself. Besides you've already deleted a similar list of DirectX 12 games. You may also consider deleting the List of artificial intelligence films. It's not like this information can be found anywhere on the Internet. Go try finding the list of released DirectX 12 games. None exists? But you have standards/rules, so stick to them even if valuable pieces of information which can't be found anywhere else are forever lost. God, I'm extremely disappointed. Meanwhile English WP has literally tens of thousands of poorly maintained/completely worthless articles or articles which are biased beyond any reason. It looks like someone has enough time arguing about questionable but extremely useful articles instead of paying attention to the poorly maintained ones. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 16:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While we are at it, let's consider this article for a short while: Direct3D. Doesn't it contain a list of all Direct3D releases? This article might as well be renamed to the list of Direct3D versions. I'm very much willing to rename it and also nominate it for deletion. In fact there are thousands of similar articles which don't contain the magical word "List" yet they list certain things which is against your policies. Good luck with purging everything. I will be so happy to become the devil's advocate and enforce your rules to the very limits and wreak quite an ugly havoc here. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Artem S. Tashkinov: There is a list of Vulkan games being maintained on PC Gaming Wiki [1]. There are also DirectX lists maintained there too [2][3][4][5][6]. I'm sure that community would appreciate your contributions. The list is not suitable for Wikipedia because it's indiscriminate and also fails WP:CROSSCAT. You can however, add category tags to game articles to list them on Category:Video games that support Vulkan. TarkusAB^talk 00:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per previous discussion, the listed cases should be added to Category:Video games that support Vulkan. @Artem S. Tashkinov: I believe this list is really useless, because no one don't choose the games from this list to buy/play, even me as a Linux user which use WINE.-- Editor-1 (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Literally no one maintains this tag or how you call it. It has existed for years and we have less than a dozen games under it. In fact absolute most categories are not properly maintained in WP. Nice! While we are at it, how one can find Linux Vulkan games in WP? A Category for it doesn't exist. The respective pages often don't contain the necessary pieces of information. Questions, questions, questions. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per prior, recent AFD, which was the same thing under a different name. The prior AFD was grounded in WP:INDISCRIMINATE and a general consensus against these sorts of articles existing. Sergecross73 msg me 17:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Again no thought given to the article's importance or information therein. WP:INDISCRIMINATE and the f-word it. And everything I've written above is also of zero concern. Nice! WP shows its best. No discussion whatsoever. I am inclined to start the f-word'ing up quite a lot of articles under this INDISCRIMINATE pretext. It's so nice. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 17:57, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:POINT too then. Sergecross73 msg me 20:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You arbitrarily chose an article to delete yet you point me at the rules. Even in the real world rules are broken when they collide with common sense or greater good. Still either be completely honest and delete all the articles which pertain to WP:INDISCRIMINATE or adjust the rules, so that certain worthy articles are exempt from it. Also, all the links provided in the discussion are invalid: Find sources: "List of video games using Vulkan" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR There's no such list maintained anywhere on the Internet. This is the first time I'm participating in such a lopsided discussion: no valid reasons are given as to why the discussed article is "bad" for WP aside from some very general rules it supposedly infringes on. I didn't even create the list in the first place but lots of people have put work into it and it turns out this work is worthless. Looks like the consensus among the people who couldn't care less is "Delete". And since I'm not a moderator here my voice means nothing. Anyway, I've web archived the article, so do you want with it. Not what's right or good but what you want. It's quite telling that you've notified a single person about this nomination yet quite a lot of users have contributed and they might be interested in retaining it. What's more they might attempt to restore the list and start an edit war. Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 22:07, 4 April 2019

Please, calm down, these rambling rants aren’t going to help you, they’re just showing you have no idea what going on. First off, I didn’t nominate this article for deletion, so don’t accuse me of that. Secondly, there’s no requirement of the nominator to nominate every single similar offending article for deletion too. Thirdly, please take the time to learn the rules and policy. There’s a reason why you’re the only one debating a certain way. You’re doing it wrong. You’re supposed to be citing policy, guidelines, and precedents. You’re...really just over there throwing a rambling tantrum. Your argument doesn’t amount to anything beyond complaining that you don’t like that your article is being deleted. That wont convince anyone. Sergecross73 msg me 02:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.