Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the busiest airports in Balkan
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
List of the busiest airports in Balkan[edit]
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Not notable. List on a random topic and a random geographic region with a random amount of elements (19). Are there reliable sources discussing the amount of airports in the Balkans or something like that that could show this article to be necessary? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 18:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, and Turkey. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 18:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: as IST does not really fit in with the others as it is such a busy hub Chidgk1 (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do not Delete: The Article is only for information about air transport in the Balkan countries. It is about statistics and is suitable according wikipedia policies, is about statistics of the whole region, as its for Europe or for north America etc...every information is with source and references. I hope it can pass with success by the staff. Thank you. Illyrianzz (talk) 19:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Illyrianzz: Not specifically for this list but if you are interested in statistics generally please consider adding them to Wikidata - an advantage is that important annual stats can be updated in one place and used in several Wikipedia articles - for example in different language Wikipedias Chidgk1 (talk) 06:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- This title is a bad English variation of an article that was previously deleted with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the busiest airports in the Balkans. It seems to have been re-created by this newbie Illyrianzz, maybe they just weren't aware of WP:G4. (Speedy delete or if we're feeling especially generous - draftify) --Joy (talk) 20:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per G4. Same content with a bad title due to AfD evasion. Technically, Busiest airports aren't random. The region is. And the combination is. Let's illustrate this in the simplest mathematical terms: if the topic is +1, and the region is -1, then the combination is 1 * (-1) = -1. gidonb (talk) 02:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the busiest airports in the Balkans ended up being a delete. This is pretty much a remake with a slightly different title. Ajf773 (talk) 09:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do not Delete: No one of you is giving strong arguments for deletion. It is not a bad English in page you all know it. It is not random topic! It is the same as List of the busiest airports in Europe where is diference? Why this page should be deleted and this List of the busiest airports in Europe no? It is not random information, it is based on sources of every Airport. It is not all about statistics its about getting know more about the region about Airports of this Region. Watch the page carefully it is not related with old pages you have deleted. The region exists and all has the right to know more about this region about air transport. Illyrianzz (talk) 10:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Illyrianzz if it's not all about statistics, perhaps a more worthwhile endeavor for you would be to start working on Draft:Air transport in the Balkans instead. --Joy (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. To quote the article Balkans,
the borders of the Balkans are, due to many contrasting definitions, disputed
. As such, the inclusion criteria are not clear, which contravenes WP:LISTCRIT. Likewise,one accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources
. I do not see evidence that airports specifically in the Balkans (regardless of the definition of the region) are a group that are discussed collectively in sources. --Kinu t/c 23:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)- JFTR admins can see the previous article content at [1] and confirm that there's no substantial difference. --Joy (talk) 11:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Still not a good argument why to delete this article! Every region has borders disputed, for example List of the busiest airports in the former Soviet Union, you should tell me where is differnce between List of the busiest airports in Balkan and List of the busiest airports in the Baltic states,List of the busiest airports in the Nordic countries,List of the busiest airports in the former Soviet Union? Why to delete only this while are for the same topic in different regions? Illyrianzz (talk) 12:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- The more important issue is that we see no references to secondary sources that discuss this topic. There's individual sources discussing individual airports, but nothing for the composition. This issue has persisted since it was first discussed in 2011, apparently. --Joy (talk) 12:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Youprayteas (talk to me? | contribs) 17:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, WP:G4. We could as well come up with List of the busiest airports in the Caucasus, which is similarly too obscure. Aintabli (talk) 04:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:SYNTH, and because there's no clear definition of what is Balkan. SportingFlyer T·C 13:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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