Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. bainer (talk) 07:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy[edit]

Closer's notes

  1. This discussion reached no consensus, although it was trending towards being in favour of deletion.
  2. The form of the article is questionable, most people seemed to think that it should be less of a list of information, and more of an article about the list as a meme.
  3. I've seen this before, but didn't it end with a joke about Marilyn Monroe?

Tagged prod, tag removed without comment by User:Rawkchick. Delete as perfectly unencyclopaedic collection of trivia. Wikipedia isn't a scrapbook. Dr Zak 12:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - at least one thing on there is patently false per Snopes - http://www.snopes.com/history/american/linckenn.htm - Lincoln did not have a secretary named Kennedy. BigDT 13:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, collections of coincidences do not an encyclopedia make. Vizjim 13:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per all above. Paddles 13:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. Although I do find it eerie that both Lincoln and Kennedy enjoyed sitting in rocking chairs. ScottW 14:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a perfect example of indiscriminate information. Hey, both guys had seven letters in their last name! That and a buck fifty will get you acup of coffee... Just zis Guy you know? 14:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete people have been forwarding this thing since the 90's. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 14:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. +Hexagon1 (talk) 14:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. -- Tangotango 15:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep - these coincidences have been the subject of at least a few documentary shows and articles, usually relating to the assassinations. The one Snopes identifies as false should be marked and cited as such, but I see no harm on this one considering how many other pop culture/meme/conspiracy theory-style articles are already in Wikipedia. 23skidoo 19:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As CrazyRussion says, this has been floating around since at least the 90's. Who here has heard of it before? I'm guessing quite a few. That makes it notable, and worth an article -- if for no other reason than to show which items are false. And perhaps to provide some context for the trivial coincidences. -Rholton 01:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep notable meme.  Grue  15:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep notable meme/conspiracy theory/urban legend. - CNichols 17:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think it's ok to have an article about a conspiracy theory that documents it as a conspiracy theory, or a prominent meme that documents it as a meme. But this article asserts truth. WP should not be a meme vector. Paddles 22:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - a coincidences page? Its not really necessary or informative. If this is kept, then a precedence could be set for other coincidences pages. There is also the absurdity of a "coincidence page" - Kennedy and Lincoln were both men, both President - what a coincidence! William Flowers 11:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's interesting to read.
  • Keep and debunk the false ones (like Lincoln's secretary Kennedy). Possibly rename to List of alleged similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. -Sean Curtin 03:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Information is not knowledge. -- GWO
  • Keep This is a well-known set of coincidences. dcandeto 19:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable list of coincidences, keep and edit to remove false ones. --Joshua Johaneman 01:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Per JzG. —Encephalon 04:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not just a collection of coincidences, but a notorious urban legend; should be recorded as such. Reference the proven fallacy and let the rest remain. --jivy 15:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not the place for this. Zaxem 06:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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