Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of shopping malls in Houston, Texas

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. ELIMINATORJR 23:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of shopping malls in Houston, Texas[edit]

List of shopping malls in Houston, Texas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

List subject is already adequately covered by Category:Shopping malls in Houston; the list contains no additional information about each mall. The only page that links to it is Portal:Houston/Houston lists. See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes for the relevant guidelines. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I don't see where the list has violated any policies or guidelines in it's current form. It could use some expansion, though. It is also acceptable for categories and lists to co-exist. I added a "stub" and "expand" tag. -- Postoak 19:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not saying it's violated any policies, I'm just saying that it's generally unused and there's a category that serves a similar purpose. Admittedly, a category wouldn't be able to show the Houston mall articles that haven't been created yet. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Wikipedia:Listcruft.Operating 20:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Listcruft is an essay. It is not a policy or guideline. -- Postoak 21:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article describes the pro's and con's of the terms usage. To me it simply describes an irrelevant list. Which is what this article is. I can produce a hundred lists like this every day, as i'm sure you can. Operating 21:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it is irrelevant to you, but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. See WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Postoak 17:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NOT#DIR. There is a cat for this, the article is not encyclopedic. meshach 21:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is acceptable for categories and lists to co-exist. Please see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes and WP:UNENCYCLOPEDIC. Postoak 02:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is acceptable for categories and lists to co-exist. Please see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes. Postoak 02:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your correct, they can coexist - but if you read the section pertaining to the advantages of lists; have any of the suggested improvements been implemented (other than redlink). Sorry, but as it stands, it is JUST a copy of the Category listing. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 04:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, that is incorrect. The list also contains articles that have not been created and therefore cannot be categorized. Postoak 05:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep - Improvement + Effort has been shown Comments AfD is not the place for getting guidance on how to improve an article - comment to above - thoes are called redlinks, and I did say "(other than redlink)" Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 18:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the nomination, textbook directory content, which we are WP:NOT in the business of providing. Use categories. Burntsauce 23:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, well go type "List of shopping malls" in your search box and see what we find. We apparently are providing this. It is acceptable for categories and lists to co-exist. We should review Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes. Postoak 00:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep: Delete this article, then delete all of these. It's all or nothing at all, and none of the others are slated for deletion. It's not fair. -- azumanga 18:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but not for the above reason. Keep because lists like this are probably the best way to deal with the less notable malls. DGG (talk) 03:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Context has been added to many of the malls included on the list; thus, it is no longer a mere list and contains more info than a category can. --Evb-wiki 04:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment to Comment - what you have added is simply the first sentence from each article page. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 05:03, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that you somewhat improved the list. Have you considered a table format? It works rather well to communicate additional information about each entry. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I just came across {{Houston Shopping}}, which aside from being obnoxiously large, seems to duplicate the functionality of this list as well. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete- There is already a template and a category dedicated to this. This article is creating a problem for the category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SirChan (talk • contribs) 08:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is acceptable for categories and lists to co-exist. Please see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes. "Creating a problem for the category?" Please elaborate. Postoak 14:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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