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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:15, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of parasitic alien species[edit]

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Mostly unreferenced. I'm not sure that the few sources are unreliable, but the list is not well-defined and it resembles a recently deleted batch of lists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:20, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Per nom, mostly unreferenced listcruft. With the refs that do exist, one might be able to create a Parasites in fiction type article, but not as a list.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:18, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 04:22, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 04:22, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is not original research, and it adds some value to our encyclopedia. I would rename it to "Fictional Parasitic Alien Species" and keep it. Seafox289 (talk) 05:07, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, make into a table, describe, and source a bit better. I'm no great fan of crufty lists with numerous unsourced entries, but good sources are available for some "Fictional Parasitic Alien Species", and quite a number of biologists interested in parasitology have compared the fictional aliens (especially but not only those in Alien) with real parasites (including parasitoids, which are a kind of parasite).[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] The list is therefore both potentially and actually sourceable and of encyclopedic interest, which is more than one can say of many other lists. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:23, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Just another list of unreferenced listcruft. Ajf773 (talk) 11:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, reliably cited material with some listcruft attached. At the least the cited material can be moved to something like Parasites in fiction or Parasitic aliens in fiction, as the sources are numerous, in-depth, and reliable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Guarino, Ben (19 May 2017). "Disgusting 'Alien' movie monster not as horrible as real things in nature". The Washington Post.
  2. ^ Glassy, Mark C. (2005). The Biology of Science Fiction Cinema. McFarland. pp. 186 ff. ISBN 978-1-4766-0822-8.
  3. ^ Moisseeff, Marika (23 January 2014). "Aliens as an Invasive Reproductive Power in Science Fiction". HAL Archives-Ouvertes.
  4. ^ Pappas, Stephanie (29 May 2012). "5 Alien Parasites and Their Real-World Counterparts". Live Science.
  5. ^ Williams, Robyn; Field, Scott (27 September 1997). "Behaviour, Evolutionary Games and .... Aliens". Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 30 November 2017.
  6. ^ "The Making of Alien's Chestburster Scene". The Guardian. 13 October 2009. Archived from the original on 30 April 2010. Retrieved 29 May 2010.
  7. ^ Sercel, Alex (19 May 2017). "Parasitism in the Alien Movies". Signal to Noise Magazine.
  8. ^ Dove, Alistair (9 May 2011). "This is clearly an important species we're dealing with". Deep Sea News.
  9. ^ "Parasitism and Symbiosis". The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction. 10 January 2016.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect toDelete in favour of Parasites in fiction (per Zxcvbnm and Seafox289), which I've created using the sources here and some more. What I've found is, ironically given parasite biology, an Aggregated distribution, namely that a few books and films are mentioned in many reliable sources, while the rest of the books and films get a rapidly decreasing number of mentions. Most television series and video game parasites such as most of those listed here are barely sourceable, though I've added reasonable sources for some of them. The danger of new cruft has, I suspect, greatly diminished but a text article is clearly more robust than a list. Finally, redirects are better than deletions in these cases as the bluelinks do often indicate sourceable items. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:51, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Chiswick Chap:Good work on the article. That said, the title of this one is a little too overly specific to merit a redirect in my opinion, so my opinion will still remain delete - especially since more vague terms like Parasitic alien are not redirects.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thanks I guess. I can't follow your logic at all—what other redirects do is of no relevance, but I've pointed them at the new article anyway. I've saved most of what is worth saving so we'd better just trash this one; I think we are diminishing the encyclopedia with all of these events, which seem to be becoming increasingly numerous. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:13, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are numerous reliable sources on the subject, including those listed here, and more at Parasites in fiction, actually. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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