Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Honiton

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of mayors of Honiton[edit]

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List of ceremonial mayors of a town - Fails WP:NLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. AusLondonder (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Lists of people, Lists, and England. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable WP:LISTCRUFT and statcruft that isn’t even formatted correctly. Dronebogus (talk) 20:18, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete poorly formatted, barely even trivial list. Doczilla _{@SUPERHEROLOGIST} 21:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NLIST. Most of the entries are non notable. LibStar (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Almost trivial and fails WP:NLIST. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 17:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When I removed the PROD from the list article it was on the basis of a quick scan through what looked like similar deletion discussions, some of which had been closed as keep. However, on more in-depth investigation including a re-reading and reconsideration of the relevant Ps and Gs (especially WP:NLIST) I found that most of the lists that were kept could be distinguished in various ways from this one. In addition there appear to be far fewer notable people among the mayors of Honiton than I expected to find - Juanita Maxwell Phillips being the clear exception.

I do wish that people would refrain from citing reasons for deletion such as poor formatting, which for as long as I've been here has never been a reason for the deletion of anything. I also cannot see the relevance of WP:INDISCRIMINATE to a clearly defined list of people who have held a very specific post. And the examples in WP:LISTCRUFT, which were doubtlessly most carefully selected to be representative of the type of list the essay was intended to describe are so very different from the type of list we have here that that essay can have very little relevance to this and similar AfDs.

Nonetheless, even though almost all of the entries have reasonable (if incomplete) references to confirm their accuracy, this has to be a delete. Not because of formatting, or because it's indiscriminate or because it's crufty, but because of NLIST. Mayor of Honiton is not itself a notable topic and there are insufficient notable holders of the post to raise a list of them over the notability bar. The few notable mayors should be mentioned in the parent article, Honiton. —SMALL JIM 11:24, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with much of what you've said. Just to clarify my reason for citing WP:INDISCRIMINATE is that this is effectively data without encyclopedic value. "Data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources...merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." AusLondonder (talk) 12:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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