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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. See comment below. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 02:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of magical negroes[edit]

Is this a joke? Delete as unverifiable and unencyclopedic. --Hetar 02:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as OR and listcruft. The term is real, but at least half the entries on the list don't qualify. Fan1967 02:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'd love to vote keep here, but I just can't do it without some serious secondary sourcing. As it stands, it's a POV nightmare. --djrobgordon 02:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per fan-1967 --Khoikhoi 03:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as listcruft. --Terence Ong 04:01, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete- Look, a lot of work has gone into this list, and I don't really want to bandy words like "listcruft" around, but that's what it is. Reyk 04:33, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to magical negro, which has plenty of room for such a list. dbtfztalk 04:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Let me add that it already does have such a list--just much shorter. dbtfztalk 05:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Possibly useful category. --Masssiveego 05:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Surely Magic Johnson should qualify. The list is unencyclopedic. Bobby1011 05:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per dbtfz. Bucketsofg 05:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per dbtfz. Alba 05:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per dbtfz. & citing to references (reviews, etc.) to those characters as fitting the definition would be desireable. Esquizombi 07:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or delete altogether; article already has a short list. ProhibitOnions 10:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per dbtfz. -- Astrokey44|talk 11:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Few of the entries qualify, and most that could arguably qualify, are not discussed in other sources. The main article has 5 examples: all that is necessary for Wikipedia's purposes. This was split off to a separate article because the "Magical Negro" article had become too long and unfocused. Merging this back with Magical Negro would just bring down that article as well. Sir Isaac Lime 12:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Sir Isaac Lime, and because maintaining such a list invites POV. Powers 14:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Mixing historical personalities with those of uncertain provenance (the Three Wise Men); impossible to avoid POV clashes.  (aeropagitica)  16:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete original research, listcruft, and I'm not convinced that "negro" is the accepted term these days. Just zis Guy you know? 16:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - this nom and the one further down today's AFD for "Alla-Kitten controversy" prompt me to suggest we need a variant of BJAODN called Wikipedia:Weird titles from deleted articles. Grutness...wha? 23:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or Merge but don't delete! -- While initially thought it was a joke, I read the Magical Negro article, and it all made sense! If we can have lists of Songs containing cowbell and piles of pokecruft lists this is acceptable. I do agree with removal of historical figures (ie. 3 wise men) from the list as I believe the article Magical Negro is speaking about fictional entertainment related stuff. Oscar Arias 05:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per dbtfz. Sandstein 07:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge look up. Newyorktimescrossword 07:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Magical Negro (admittedly my first instinct was to delete, until reading the article). Yamaguchi先生 01:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cleanup and merge into Magical Negro. The article has some merit, but not in its current condition, and possibly not anytime soon as a seperate fork. Regardless of that, the concept is still worth keeping.--み使い Mitsukai 03:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment from the closing admin: The main article explains the matter well, and has enough examples. This one is full of items that don't fit, and doesn't have a single reference. It's not listcruft. Cruft is a mass of useless true things; this is a list of potentially useful but completely unverifiable things. Merging was not a possibility; it would've moved the problems from here to the main article. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 02:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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