Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of indie punk musicians

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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of indie punk musicians[edit]

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This list reeks of original research, there is no reasoning behind most of the entries and there is not enough entries to warrant a list. the originating editor has attempted a similar list in the past and has had it get deleted for similar reasons. ViniTheHat (talk) 02:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I PRODed this page for this reason "I dispute this page as original research. If you try looking for a page on this subject on wikipedia you will be redirected to the indie rock page. I propose that this page be merged with List of indie rock musicians" and I stand by that statment. I personaly can't see a way that this list could be something more then WP:OR --Guerillero | My Talk 04:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The question is whether there is a basis for differentiating Indie punk from Indie rock. I am not knowledgable in this, but I realize that there are many related genres,even if I can not tell them apart personally, and the page at Indie Rock confirms this. The article Indie punk was brought up for AfD in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indie punk and kept, the closer specifically saying it was not ruling on a possible merge. Subsequently, it was redirected but without any discussion I can find. But I see it being redirected and then the redirect being reverted several times by several unconnected editors over a two-year period--most recently, Oct.19, 2010 [1], I therefore conclude there is no consensus for the redirect, and consequently there should be no consensus about a separate list either. As for the musicians, they have to have been described as such , and there ought to be refs for that in their individual articles. ~

Comment I think the editor and writer of this artical is using this list to refer to punk rock bands on independent record labels. The other list of indie rock bands doesn't include the bands on this list because they are punk bands. This list refers to Punk bands on indie labels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.56.172.114 (talk) 21:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment There is an artical on indie punk on the indie rock page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.56.172.114 (talk) 23:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That was made after this AfD discussion started. It was was PRODed then was tagged to be merged into indie rock. The article has no sources to exert its notability.--Guerillero | My Talk 23:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment A majority of the bands on the list as it stands are either on major or pseudo-indie labels. The page (created by the same person) states: "It is use to describe punk bands on an Indie label or bands the fuse indie rock with punk." --Guerillero | My Talk 23:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment Instead of removing the list let's just merge the artical with rock indie rock artical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.56.172.114 (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I really think the whole page should be deleted and everything associated with it eliminated from Wikipedia. The list looks like a list of random indie, punk, and alternative bands that have NOTHING to do with each other and don't even sound similar in any way. They also can often be grouped into other, more fitting genres such as post-punk, pop punk, grunge, emo, etc. I really don't think the genre of indie punk even exists, and from reading Jaysonclinkscal's edits on this and other pages, it seems that he focuses almost exclusively on articles about bands of that sort and makes many edits to various pages supporting the genre of "indie punk". I've never even heard the term before and am sure it's just OR and his pet category. The page is also very unprofessional and poorly handled, which detracts from Wikipedia's overall quality. The faster it gets deleted the better. 71.175.230.110 (talk) 16:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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