Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional colors

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The result was delete. A redirect can be separately created. Sandstein 08:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional colors[edit]

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Fails WP:LISTN by a long shot, outside of the real-world analog Impossible color. Better covered at the corresponding TV Tropes page, Fictional Colour; any items not already covered there can be added. Apparently created as a page split, but it's unclear where it was split from. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 21:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 21:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 21:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy has an entry for color and this is prima facie evidence that the topic is encyclopedic. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:55, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:LISTN. Fictional colors may or may not be notable, but a list of them isn't. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As stated by the nom, this topic fails WP:LISTN. The entry in the book mentioned by Andrew is almost entirely about real colors, and what they symbolize in fantasy and science fiction stories. There is only two sentences that mention three specific examples of fictional colors, which is not even close to being WP:SIGCOV. I've searched for additional sources under a variety of different terms and descriptions that might be synonymous, and have found nothing but some false postives. A brief mention in another article, such as color, stating the fact that fiction occasionally makes use of made-up colors, might be appropriate, but the massive list of badly sourced trivia does not need to be kept, and as the actual lead-in to this article is completely unsourced, there is nothing to preserve or merge. I should also point out that while a few of the entries appear to be blue-links, not a single one of them actually leads to an article on the color in question, making this useless as a navigational tool, as well. Rorshacma (talk) 22:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I transwikied the full article history to https://list.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_fictional_colors Dream Focus 00:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete / merge. I think impossible color could use an 'in fiction' section listing some examples, though there is very little if anything in the current list to rescue. The source Andrew mentioned could be perhaps used for such a section, though as he did not bother to link it, well, it is hard to quickly judge whether it is relevant (if anyone gives me a link to it I can try to create such a section, if the content is helpful enough). There is no evidence provided it would be relevant to the list discussed here, which so far seems to fail LISTN. If anyone creates such a section, the fictional color redirect should be retargetted accordingly. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:32, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the section in question, though as I mentioned, the actual information on fictional colors is extremely limited. Rorshacma (talk) 02:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a bit to Impossible_color#In_fiction. I think there is more to be said about it, if you for example search by the names of some fictional colors, there is surprisingly a lot of hits that seem to be related to literary analysis, for example, check the results you can get for "ulfire" and "jale". The current list has a lot of unsourced fancruft, but it is clear we need an article about colors and culture; note there is still no main article for Category:Color in culture. We may also have a problem with terminology, BEFORE for "fictional colors produces little, but I am getting a bit more for imaginary colors. Please see the sources I've added to the impossible color, I think at the very least referenced parts of the list should be merged there (well, except that upon closer review pretty much all the sources in the list are very poor, sigh). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this topic fails WP:LISTN. The title is not a useful redirect, and I don’t think it would be due weight to include examples at the potential target article. Devonian Wombat (talk) 13:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per rationale given above. It fails LISTN, and frankly Wikipedia does not need a list for everything. The topic itself is not notable enough. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:40, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per rationale given above. However, shift the various fictional words for infrared and ultraviolet to "in fiction" sections on those pages. Also, the words invented by Majliss Larson for Pawns and Symbols could be added to the Biology subsection on the Klingon article, making clear they come from a tie-in novel. Greer Watson (talk) 02:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - delete per the above comments. - GizzyCatBella🍁 02:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Per my arguments above and WP:SOFTDELETE, I strongly suggest just redirecting this to Impossible_color#In_fiction I created. I believe that there is potential for expansions and with non-primary refs, a number of fictional colors seems to be mentioned in various works analyzing literary works, etc. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:58, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete some fictional colors may be notable (with our record on creating huge numbers of articles on very minor things in works of fiction, the fact we have articles on some is not of itself notable) but they are not notable as a concept at a level that would justify having a list of them, especially a list that includes ones that are not notable on their own.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:34, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Piotrus. I expect the topic of fictional colors is notable. pburka (talk) 19:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to the section described by Piotrus. It's always better to summarize the most important aspects in a section of prose than to try to create a questionably notable list of indiscriminate details. This topic doesn't have enough coverage in third party sources to meet the WP:GNG, but there's some verifiable material here that makes for a healthy section, in the context of a more notable and well-defined topic. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- I agree with the above posters. On top of that, many of these colours are not fictional at all. A fictional alien species that can perceive ultraviolet does not make ultraviolet fictional. Reyk _YO! 22:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Piotrus, it is not notable on itself. Nika2020 (talk) 12:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:LISTN. -- Dane ^talk 04:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no prima facie evidence that the topic meets our notability guidelines. ——Serial 16:46, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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