Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional cat-like aliens

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The result was delete. –MuZemike 00:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional cat-like aliens[edit]

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This list fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:SALAT and WP:IINFO, because there's no clear definition of what a "cat-like alien" is, and thus the list doesn't have clear inclusion criteria. It could also be argued that this is an unencyclopaedic cross-categorization, as it cross-categorizes "fictional aliens" with the "cat-like". Felinoid aliens in fiction is not an encyclopaedic topic. Claritas § 11:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith ^talk 16:56, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:OR. Whether an alien is cat-like seems to simply be a matter of opinion. Erpert (let's talk about it) 17:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The discussion page has quite a few posts which clearly indicates that people find the list useful. Whether or not an alien is cat-like is not so hard to determine. We can leave it at "I know it when I see it." HebrewHammerTime (talk) 19:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- But where are the guidelines that determine what a cat-like alien is? As for the talk page, well, the face that people find the list useful isn't a good "keep" rationale (yes, it was back in 2008, but consensus can change). Erpert (let's talk about it) 19:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The guidelines that determine what a cat-like alien is are reliable sources which indicate that the aliens are cat-like. This could be either the fiction in question, in which the aliens are described as being cat-like, or reviews or other independent commentary which describes them as such. But the article is a reasonable spinoff of a list of aliens. John Carter (talk) 21:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- And these reliable sources are where? Erpert (let's talk about it) 07:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Furthermore, how can you ensure that the definition of "cat-like" is consistent across the independent commentary, if it does exist ? Claritas § 08:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Strictly speaking citing that a species or character is cat-like is hardly challenging, in fact one of the magazines I recently read had an Avatar feature with a side-panel showing three other sci-fi movies/shows' cat-beings (one of which was an old Star Trek cartoon, which was news to me). Despite that, I can't support retention because in a great deal of these cases the presence of cat-beings is trivial to the work as a whole. Someone another 23:39, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I fail to see any reliable sources that have commented on the collective body of "cat-like aliens" within fiction. Drawing up a list like this from different sources which each independently refer to a creature as a "cat-like alien" would be original research. Them From Space 08:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- I agree entirely with Erpert and Claritas. This is listcruft that fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:SALAT and WP:IINFO. It's also original research. Reyk _YO! 03:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete clear WP:OR and there is no criteria for what "cat-like" might be. Tavix | Talk 00:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the problem is not one of definition ("cat-like" can be defined as feline), but that this is not an inherently notable category, and that there is no way to find sufficient reliable sources for the topic. Most of the list is red-linked and probably red shirted too. I am a big booster of pop culture lists, but this is too random even for me. Bearian (talk) 20:45, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.