Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of events at Tele2 Arena

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus--Ymblanter (talk) 08:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of events at Tele2 Arena[edit]

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This list is clearly against WP:INDISCRIMINATE. We don't need a record of every event held at this place, especially since the more notable events are already listed at the parent article (Tele2 Arena - although this can be expanded a bit). The "2014" section is additionally against WP:FUTURE. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 17:09, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - it is a good list in my opinion. It is needed.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:ITSUSEFUL is an argument to avoid. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 17:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, I think the list is a good one and is needed especially since it is an international standard arena. Which has already hosted big events.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:31, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - as promotional fluff. This belongs on the venue's web site, not in an encyclopedia. The future event listings can only be promotional, as they certainly cannot yet be notable. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 16:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How can the future events become notable if you deemed the already occurred events to be obviously non notable as you want it deleted?.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as an indiscriminate list of information. Major events can be included in the main article. --bonadea contributions talk 13:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - More zealotry from P 1 9 9 who went through the Category:Lists of events by place and arbitrarily selected a few articles from it and nominated them for deletion. None of these articles are in violation of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and they're definitely not in violation of WP:FUTURE. Some are not as well sourced and maintained as the others but that's not a reason to delete them.Zvonko (talk) 21:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, the notable events can be covered in the article about Tele2 Arena. Mentoz86 (talk) 02:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But if you ate !voting delete you mean that not any of the events are notable. Because if some are then the list is notable. So?. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 13:14, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not Mentoz86 and don't know their take on this, but I do not agree that the list of events is by definition notable just because a few of the list elements are notable. WP:NOTINHERITED would seem to apply here. --bonadea contributions talk 13:38, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I see no need for a calendar-style list of more-or-less every event at an arena. (Not even in those cases when the arena is visible from my window. :-) ) Tomas e (talk) 19:17, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If the arena hosts a large number of notable events, or events centering around notable people or groups, there is obvious value to the users of the encyclopedia in such a list. That's not a formal reason for keeping an article, so it would have to be by reinterpreting NOT Indiscriminate using IAR. If a deletion reason prevents including something that improves the encyclopedia, IAR takes precedence as it does every wp policy and guideline. Whether it actually does improve the encyclopedia to have lists like this is another matter, and could be validly discussed. Whether these events are by and large sufficiently important to be worth the trouble could be discussed also. Most articles removed by NOT INDISCRIMINATE do not have value to any likely users, or the value is not as important as other possible problems. I don;t see problems here, and the material may become very hard to find otherwise. Of course, such lists can get very long, but we're NOT PAPER. DGG ( talk ) 02:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At this point there is a very small number of notable events that have been held at the arena, though (I count two or three, depending on how strictly you define "notable"), and I don't quite see why those could not be more usefully listed in the article about the arena. --bonadea contributions talk 08:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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