Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of directors who appear in their own films

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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of directors who appear in their own films[edit]

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Sourced entirely to IMDb. Tagged for better sourcing for almost 4 years. Doesn't seem like an appropriate topic for a list per WP:SALAT — the fact that a director appears in his own film does not seem any more notable than if he didn't. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 02:58, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per TenPoundHammer Peter.C • talk 03:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

delete Mainly trivial stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RomeEonBmbo (talk • contribs) 03:15, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep meets every requirement for a Wikipedia list, very easy to source, many lists with same information are in reliable sources. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clear inclusion criteria of a noteworthy topic - I'm sure most people relate Hitchcock to being a director who appeared in his own films, for example. The main rationale for deletion seems to be that it's not been sourced for a longtime - AfD is not for cleanup. Lugnuts (talk) 09:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So who's gonna source the damn thing? What are they gonna source it with? I see nothing to source it with. SOURCE THE DAMN THING. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD is not for cleanup. Lugnuts (talk) 20:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But nothing has happened here for four years. What else is it gonna take for someone to clean the freaking thing? And did I already mention, I FOUND NO SOURCES. DID YOU FIND ANY SOURCES? NO. IF NO SOURCES EXIST, THERE SHOULD NOT BE AN ARTICLE. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:48, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How hard would it be to look up each movie in IMDB and see the person listed as director and as actor. It isn't difficult at all. The main references shows the notability of the topic. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought IMDb was an unacceptable source since it's user-submitted. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 22:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Major screen credit portions of IMDB are considered generally reliable as the information found therein can itself be verified through the actual on-screen film credits. What IMDB is NOT acceptable for is sourcing notability. BUt even not wishing to use IMDB, nor wishing to watch the films of these various directors to view the onscreen credits, all that anyone need do is enter a director's or film name into the search link at New York Times Movies and get instant nearly verification from their dedicated and reliable film database InBaseline.[1][2][3] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summaries are user submitted as is the trivia and goofs section. The credits come from the studios. IMDB along with the New York Times is in the top 30 links out of Wikipedia. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:48, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref added. Lugnuts (talk) 10:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:BEFORE - a quick gbooks search for "appearances in his own films" turned up plenty of sources that the nominator should have found before coming here at all. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 19:54, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per even minimal research showing that multiple reliable sources exist away from IMDB, making the list of notables sourcable... an easily addressable issue. And while acknowledging the nominators plaintative "who's gonna source the damn thing?"... it not being done yet would call for using a little google-foo and actually doing it, rather than deletion in that lack. Google-foo Hint: all that anyone need do is enter a director's name into the search link at New York Times Movies and get nearly instant verification from their film-dedicated and reliable database InBaseline.[4][5][6] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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