Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deceased EastEnders characters
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy delete. G5; both substantial contributors have been blocked as sockpuppets. —fetch·comms 02:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
List of deceased EastEnders characters[edit]
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We alreday have 31 lists of EastEnders characters, including a List of past EastEnders characters. There is no compelling reason to have another list of only those that actually died in the series, if needed those that are fictionally dead can be noted in the list of past characters. Lists of characters based on some story element (list of emigrated characters of EastEnders, list of imprisoned characters of EastEnders, ...) is a never-ending source of new trivia. Basically, this grouping fails WP:N. Fram (talk) 09:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with List of past EastEnders characters. --Bettenchi (talk) 11:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete, as it is basically a recreation of List of births, marriages and deaths in EastEnders (in part), which was previously deleted at AFD (and is currently a subpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders). There is nothing to merge with List of past EastEnders characters as the WikiProject would be against including reasons for character departures in that list. The list is also completely "in-universe" and contains many inaccuracies. AnemoneProjectors 18:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - East Enders is apparently a hugely successful, and very long runnung soap, that's why it's got 31 lists (most of which are lists of characters by year - very few lists are 'specials'). This one might just be the quick reference somebody might be glad of. The list is notable because it is part of a standalone Wikipedia projrct for the series. There is no compelling reason for not letting the list stay where it is.--Kudpung (talk) 18:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the creator has now been blocked indefinitely for creating hoaxes but is also a sockpuppet of User:Jake Picasso so the article should be speedily deleted on those grounds. AnemoneProjectors 19:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Anemone, could you point me to a policy on that please? As I see it, once created, an article becomes common property (WP:OWN). This article is not a hoax, is not spam, and is not vandalism; in its current condition, is factual, accurte, and clean. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 03:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:CSD#G5. The article has had no substantial edits from users other than the creator (only tagging and minor cleanup) so this criteria for speedy deletion still applies. I didn't say the article was a hoax, I just gave that as a reason for the user being blocked. After the block, I realised the user was a sockpuppet, and was in violation of their block when the article was created. Therefore, this is a criteria for speedy deltion. I already deleted all the user's other creations under WP:CSD#G5 but I left this one because it was at AFD. However, it is still partially a recreation of a deleted article. (But it isn't actually entirely accurate.) AnemoneProjectors 10:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The list has been significantly expanded by an additional editor.Kudpung (talk) 07:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean you can remove the AFD notice from the article.(sorry, that wasn't you) It is still a recreation of a previously deleted article, is still completely "in universe", contains no sources and is still inaccurate. The deleted article was recreated as a subpage of WikiProject EastEnders for reference but it was deemed trivial with no encyclopaedic value (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of births, marriages and deaths in EastEnders) which is why it was deleted. This has not changed. AnemoneProjectors 10:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The list has been significantly expanded by an additional editor.Kudpung (talk) 07:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:CSD#G5. The article has had no substantial edits from users other than the creator (only tagging and minor cleanup) so this criteria for speedy deletion still applies. I didn't say the article was a hoax, I just gave that as a reason for the user being blocked. After the block, I realised the user was a sockpuppet, and was in violation of their block when the article was created. Therefore, this is a criteria for speedy deltion. I already deleted all the user's other creations under WP:CSD#G5 but I left this one because it was at AFD. However, it is still partially a recreation of a deleted article. (But it isn't actually entirely accurate.) AnemoneProjectors 10:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Anemone, could you point me to a policy on that please? As I see it, once created, an article becomes common property (WP:OWN). This article is not a hoax, is not spam, and is not vandalism; in its current condition, is factual, accurte, and clean. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 03:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Besides, the other user is the same user with another sockpuppet account, so they are also blocked. So it's still a creation by a blocked user with no significant contributions from other users. AnemoneProjectors 16:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.