Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bodies of water of capital cities of the United States

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The result was delete. Cabayi (talk) 06:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of bodies of water of capital cities of the United States[edit]

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WP:LISTN This set of items isn't notable; the only Google results about bodies of water that state capitals lie on are either this page, mirrors of this page, one blog, and one quiz (about identifying capitals based on a body of water). In addition, the article was initially declined by AfC due to lack of sources (indeed, the page has zero citations), then abandoned. It was then [for speedy deletion] due to being an abandoned draft, then for some reason it was accepted for creation less than 2 hours later without any message on the creator's talk page. Note that there weren't any changes in the interim months and the only changes since the initial rejected draft and the current state are fixing some links to ambiguous place names and stylistic changes (smart quotes, bold). I understand that current issues with the article shouldn't be the main reason for an afd because it could be improved but there are no reliable sources regarding the topic (not notable) and the article doesn't seem like it should have been created in the first place.

Sorry if I did anything wrong, this is my first afd discussion. 20UF6 (talk) 01:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. 20UF6 (talk) 01:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. 20UF6 (talk) 01:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. 20UF6 (talk) 01:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The fact that someone tried to speedy delete it years ago makes no difference at all. One of the things Wikipedia is is an almanac. The first of the founding principles of Wikipedia is found at: Wikipedia:Five pillars Wikipedia combines many features of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers.. This is a perfect article for this encyclopedia. Dream Focus 02:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I cannot point to an almanac that does this. Can you point to one? Uncle G (talk) 12:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - https://sites.google.com/site/worldfactsinc/rivers-of-the-world-s-capital-cities Dream Focus 17:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - I have severe doubts that that Google sites page is an acceptable source. Hog Farm _Talk 03:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      - Whoops, my mistake. That isn't from Google its from some hosting service they have. World Atlas is a reliable source used in many Wikipedia articles. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-river-passes-through-most-national-capital-cities.html I also find anyplace talking about a capital city mentions what river it was built along. Something notable enough to always be mentioned with other information about the city. Dream Focus 08:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        The page you linked is about one river that flows through multiple world capital cities, not a collection of many rivers each flowing through US state capitals. And while the information would be able to be found on individual pages about the cities in an almanac, well that's also true on Wikipedia and there's no need to group them. 20UF6 (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Arbitrary cross-categorization. Big cities are by rivers, lakes or bays; small cities are by rivers, lakes or bays; and, yes, capital cities are by rivers, lakes, or bays, but there is absolutely nothing special that relates these in particular. I'm not sure what the gibberish above is supposed to mean, having features of a gazetteer does not mean we need to arbitrarily list bodies of water that happen to be near where a legislature meets any more than we need a Closest mountains to capital cities of the United States. This is not something covered as a group in reliable sources. Reywas92^Talk 03:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Zero sources, no source showing why this trivial cross-categorization is notable or of interest. -Indy beetle (talk) 06:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as this is an arbitrary intersection which is not addressed by sources. There is no evidence that bodies of water within cities designated as state capitals are treated any different from other bodies of waters within other non-state-capital cities. WP:NOTCATALOG#6 applies here.--Eostrix (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 06:59, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, total trivia. Fails WP:LISTN as non notable cross categorisation. Ajf773 (talk) 09:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Suonii180 (talk) 11:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, repetitive categorization. Mukedits (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OR and WP:V. LearnIndology (talk) 15:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Reywas92. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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