Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of baptist colleges and universities in the United States

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of baptist colleges and universities in the United States[edit]

There is already a a category for Universities and colleges affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention [1]. This also appears to be a straight copy from the reference - not sure if it's a copyvio. Omarcheeseboro (talk) 17:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — I don't think there is a copyvio here, at least not for list content. Otherwise, the list is fairly discriminate in nature. MuZemike (talk) 17:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Note — Flagged article for rescue and tried to do a hey-job on it. MuZemike (talk) 17:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 18:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and fix Indeed more of an explanation of the subject would be helpful. Dates would be nice. And at the very least Baptist needs to be capitalized. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There are also these Wikipedia articles covering the same ground: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Universities_and_colleges_affiliated_with_the_Southern_Baptist_Convention and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Baptist-related_Schools,_Colleges,_and_Universities. So a merge and redirects are needed.ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think there are more Babtist colleges than Southern Baptist ones - or at logically there is a difference and more of them. -- Banjeboi 19:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: and clean-up, expand etc. -- Banjeboi 19:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Redundant with category is not a valid ground for deletion. Navigational list which seems to have sufficiently defined inclusion criteria. AndyJones (talk) 20:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As noted by other users, it's valid to have a similar category and list: after all, we have several featured lists for US counties (e.g. Arizona) that overlap with categories, so surely they wouldn't get to featured if they weren't allowed to overlap. By the way, article has been moved from "baptist" to "Baptist". Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. There's a guideline on the point: WP:CLN. AndyJones (talk) 13:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - encyclopaedic list. Basic information not copyrightable. Wily D 12:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename - lists starting with the name "list" aren't terribly helpful. As mentioned, lists and categorized co-exist. I would suggest that the list be reviewed with an eye towards keeping it and Southern_Baptist-related_Schools,_Colleges,_and_Universities from becoming overly repetitive.--otherlleft (talk) 18:49, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep nomination seems to stem from a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between categories and list articles. List articles are a navigational aide for the reader, and this one is both useful and allows for referencing to provide explanation of why an article is in the list, and the inclusion of important entries that don't yet have an article.(See WP:REDLINKS. These are features sadly lacking in categories. Please see WP:CLN, which explains this, as well as Wikipedia:Categories vs lists. Jerry delusional ¤ kangaroo 00:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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