Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of YuYu Hakusho abilities

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Keilana^talk_(recall) 02:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of YuYu Hakusho abilities[edit]

Solely plot information for the yuyu series. No stretch of the imagination could establish a real world context due to a serious an unresolvable failure of WP:FICT (lacks secondary reliable sources independent of the subject), WP:NOT#PLOT (this is only plot information from the series), and lack of independent verifiability. Also, this appears to be either original research. Pilotbob (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not a particularly notable part of the series, and individual characters each have their respective abilities sections to go by. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not notable on its own and already covered by individual character articles. Collectonian (talk) 06:07, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. —Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say delete, but I'd like to note that the article has been around since 2005, and it's probable that some content has been reused in other articles. In any case, delete or redirect; what is here should not be here. -- Ned Scott 06:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Indiscriminate, best confined to individual characters. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with List of deleted Wikipedia articles. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 12:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Yu Yu Hakusho, if as people say it is already covered by the particular character pages. --Gwern (contribs) 18:16 24 December 2007 (GMT)
Redirect redirect to main article RogueNinja_talk 09:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or Redirect to main article or character pages. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no reason to redirect since no will search for this term, nothing can merged since it's all original research and has no sources. Ridernyc (talk) 04:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given the creation date of the article, it's possible some content has been copied to other articles. I'll see if I can identify any. -- Ned Scott 02:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Indiscriminate and completely trivial plot summaries. --Farix (Talk) 01:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge back into the list of characters. But as for the arguments, First, plot is different than character. A list of character traits is exactly what can help to illuminate the otherwise confusing articles about plot, but they are basically different aspects of fiction. anything that may be said in the guidelines about plot applies to plot. Not characters, not their properties and behavior, not setting. Indiscriminate does not apply to a list of all the more significant characters in fiction--I doubt its applicability here anyway, but it appears that only the ones are being discussed about whom there is something to say the opposite of indiscriminate. Trivia does not apply to a list of the characteristics about a work of fiction; it would apply to trivial references unrelated to the work. Putting this sort of detail --however appropriate-- in the main article is not necessarily a good idea--most such merges either result in unwieldy articles or lose the information. But there appears to be almost total duplication with list of characters. A minor edting matter which should never have come here. DGG (talk) 02:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Character without real world context is nothing more then a plot summary. End of story, stop trying to rewrite policy. Ridernyc (talk) 06:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I completely disagree, a list of attacks, which is what this article is about, is a very good example of trivial and indiscriminate information. Also, since the article covers these attacks from an in-universe perspective, doesn't describe any real world context, and relies entirely on the work itself, it is a plot summery. To say that because this is related to characters and not the story, it therefore can't be a plot summery is utterly ridicules. In fact, character related articles are much more then likely to violate WP:NOT#PLOT then articles on the work itself. --Farix (Talk) 14:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or Redirect-I lean more towards Merging, but which ever doesn't really matter. H*bad (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.