Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of South Park families

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The result was redirect to List of South Park characters. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:39, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of South Park families[edit]

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This is a follow up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of South Park Elementary staff (2nd nomination) (I'd nominate all relevant lists in one nomination but I don't know how; the remaining ones are List of students at South Park Elementary and the List of recurring South Park characters). Just like with the aforementioned list that was just redirected to List of South Park characters, I think all the other lists need to share the same fate due to failing WP:LISTN and containing unnecessary WP:FANCRUFTy plot details and nothing but. One list for characters from this show sufficies (if there is anything anyone wants to merge now or in the future, it will be preserved in the article's history).

Note: if this is closed as a redirect just like the previous AfD was, I plan on boldly redirecting the other two lists rather than having two more likely repetitive discussions at AfD unless there are valid arguments against such a course of action presented here.

Pinging editors who participated in the prior AfD: @Rorshacma, Why? I Ask, Orientls, Susmuffin, Shooterwalker, and Serratra: _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Television, Popular culture, and Lists. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of South Park characters: All of the prominent characters are covered in the main list. There is no evidence that the families are notable as groups. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 04:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Serratra (talk) 04:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lorstaking (talk) 06:08, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll copy over my comment from the talk page to bring to light the larger issue here: "There's no real logic as to where information on secondary characters in South Park appears on Wikipedia -- for an extreme example, Liane Cartman has her own page, a section of the page for Eric Cartman, an entry on "list of South Park characters," and an entry on this page; all four places duplicate information and diverge in what they emphasize or consider current. It would make sense for someone to systematically go through all the South Park character pages and decide which "level" each character deserves, merge all the info there, and create redirects." The problem goes beyond whether this particular page is redundant or overly long; the problem is that, while Wikipedia has chosen to have hundreds of pages about the TV show South Park--which is perfectly in line with the depth of coverage given to other shows with a similar amount of episodes and secondary media coverage---there is no organization to those pages as a whole and no guideline as to where any particular kind of information is supposed to go. Deleting just one page will barely begin to address issues of duplicated content & people just adding lines to multiple pages in an haphazard fashion every time a new episode airs; a larger-scale revision and guideline is called for. Predestiprestidigitation (talk) 14:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of South Park characters - To briefly summarize my argument at the prior, related AFD mentioned in the nomination, the actual prominent characters are already covered on the main South Park character list, and the ones that are not are very minor characters should not be listed, making this a redundant spinout of that main character list. I advocated Deletion for the previous AFD, and am still fine with that here, honestly, but since consensus there showed that most people would prefer it at least being Redirected, I will go with that here. Rorshacma (talk) 16:00, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect This fails WP:LISTN and does not have separate notability from the main character list. At best, this is redundant to the main list and could be merged. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.