Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Six Feet Under deaths

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. Qst 20:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Six Feet Under deaths[edit]

I am withdrawing this nomination to redo as a solo nomination instead of a multi-article one. (non-admin closure) Collectonian (talk) 05:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced, unnotable fancruft that is basically the same as the List of Six Feet Under episodes article, with some original research tacked on at the end that analyzes the show's death counts and provides some uncited statistics. Collectonian (talk) 11:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

keep all There's not as much OR as implied, it is extremely noteworthy, as death effects everyone - even in a fictional sense. Although the EastEnders and Brookside should have a lot more detail as they're just lazy lists with no detail of circumstances leading to the death like the Oz one, and the Sopranos one, which someone deleted because it was "Too boring" (I disagree) I say we keep them because it is a well divulged subject among many cultures. MJN SEIFER (talk) 14:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

keep all All are important as they are generally discussed even today. Especialy the Oz one because I deeply owe that article. Will give more sometime tomorrow so please don't decide until then MJN SEIFER (talk) 22:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By that rationale, any show that has any kind of death should have an article that lists them all. Actual notable deaths should either be covered in the episode list (which is already done for Six Feet Under since, as someone else noted, that's the point of the show) or in the character sections. None of them have any WP:Reliable Sources, no third party discussion of the deaths, etc. Being "noteworthy" doesn't make something notable. And the Sopranos list was not deleted because it was "boring" but because consensus agreed that it "is not notable, it is not verifiable, and it is indiscriminate in terms of plot detail and statistics" and it also failed WP:FICT. The same reasons apply to these. Collectonian (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete These articles are pointless and not needed. (Buts that my opinion) RuneWiki⁷⁷⁷ 14:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

coment How are they pointless? MJN SEIFER (talk) 15:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Death is the central theme of Six Feet Under and so this list is especially significant for the coverage of this notable show. It has been presented as a sub-article for reasons of style and convenience. Deletion is not a helpful way of improving this. Colonel Warden (talk) 17:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Col. Warden. Death is a central theme to SFU, Kenny, and to a lesser extent to Oz. The others need cleaning up, but that's not a reason to nominate them for AFD. Lugnuts (talk) 18:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a Kenny's deaths articles. What rationale is there for having a list of something already covered in prose? Collectonian (talk) 19:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per the above, and that was sort of the point of the television show. • Lawrence Cohen 18:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom, pointless and crufty lists. It could be argued that Kenny's deaths might be notable only if it could be sourced. These would be very hard to source, if not impossible, so kill all these lists. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletions. —Collectonian (talk) 19:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep since death is the central theme of the show. Also the list of Kenny's deaths is the only other notable list in the six proposed AFDs. The other four are deletable Doc Strange (talk) 20:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep some the 6" under list and the Kenny list, as they are central elements to their shows. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 21:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Kenny and Six feet under lists per above argument, delete the rest. RMHED (talk) 22:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all as death is a major plot element of notability for Six Feet Under (what the show's title implies) and Oz (controversial because of its violence). Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 19:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep alll without prejudice to renominating the other ones separately for adequate individual discussions--notability seems to be sufficiently shown for this one. DGG (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think that not all article deserve to exist. Some info may find a new home, but I'm not familiar with all of these shows to find a reasonable merge target (if one even exists). If these articles are renominated separately, I'd be more comfortable to !vote. – sgeureka ^t•c 21:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that seems to be an issue with the votes, so I'm going to relist the rest separately. Collectonian (talk) 22:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should withdraw this nom and start out completely new (considering that enough people commented on the Kenny death article)? – sgeureka ^t•c 23:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A good idea, but I'm not quite sure how to do it. The instructions say you can, but not how. Collectonian (talk) 23:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.