Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Lustron houses

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The result was keep. Deor (talk) 19:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of Lustron houses[edit]

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This list is extremely unuseful for navigational purposes. As its top text notes, thousands of Lustron houses were built (this page collected reports of 2000+ surviving), and pretty much all of them are of equal significance — Lustrons by their nature are pretty much identical, and the fact that some have National Register status doesn't mean that those ones are more significant than the others: it simply means that nobody's gotten around to getting historic site status for the rest. When there are potentially 2,000 entries, a list such as this on a rather unfamiliar topic can make it appear as if these few are the sole survivors; it's not like List of Albanians, which anyone can see to be a small group of significant Albanians, not the entire population. As a result, this page either must provide a small subset of the entire population, or it must provide a massive list, and neither one is useful for navigation. Nyttend (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into a subsection of the existing Lustron houses article.Cramyourspam (talk) 17:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why do we need a list of them in that article? It's just a partial text dump from the National Register database, with a few extras thrown in; such a list wouldn't help an article that discusses the nature of such a house. Nyttend (talk) 17:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The list should be limited to demonstrably notable houses (NRHP status or otherwise demonstrated to pass GNG), and in that form it seems to me such a list would be valuable for anyone interested in this type of house. If it grows into thousands, we can re-evaluate then, and we have tools for dealing with very long lists. (And our Lustron houses article notes that "many have been modified with additions, remodeled kitchens, vinyl windows, composite roofs, new heating systems, sheet rock interior walls, painted exteriors, and siding", so it's not obvious that all those houses could qualify for NRHP.) Right now there appear to be fewer than a dozen houses with articles in Category:Lustron houses, so the list would be helpful in improving our coverage of the area, and any size problem seems to be only theoretical at this time. --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:37, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Arxiloxos, consistent with WP:LISTPURP (as an index of articles and as a supplement to the notable topic of Lustron houses) and WP:CLN (as complementary to Category:Lustron houses). The nom is mistaken in thinking the "thousands" of nonnotable Lustron houses have any bearing on whether we should list the ones that are notable. Any concerns about the list confusing readers could easily be cleared up by text along the lines of "X Lustron houses were built and Y are estimated to remain," thus making it clear that the list of notable examples are not all that exist or ever have. The nom states that "the fact that some have National Register status doesn't mean that those ones are more significant than the others." Yes, it does; it means that the NRHP sites are notable. Whether the list could be incorporated into Lustron house is purely a matter of editorial judgment per WP:SIZE and WP:SPLIT and not a concern for AFD. postdlf (talk) 18:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:Lustron houses and Category:Lustron houses in Alabama, and per the article corresponding with WP:LISTPURP. If the list becomes too long, the article can be WP:SPLIT, creating new articles organized by U.S. state. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:02, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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