Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Leaders in Panzer General II (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete, consensus is that this is not a valid list per WP:NOT#GUIDE. Davewild (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Leaders in Panzer General II[edit]

Essentially a list of units and the upgrades they get (from the article lead: "Leaders are special abilities granted to experienced units."). As such, this article isn't an appropriate video game article. Nifboy (talk) 04:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. Nifboy (talk) 04:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOT#GUIDE - Wikipedia is not the game's manual or gamefaqs.com and this is clearly unencyclopedic. Nick Dowling (talk) 04:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Transwiki'd to StrategyWiki:Panzer General II/Leaders. -- Prod (Talk) 06:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Wikipedia isn't a game guide. RobJ1981 (talk) 07:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Complete game guide, something which doesnt belong on an encyclopedia. Salavat (talk) 07:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep not enough information for playing the game, so not a game guide. acceptable spinoff article for notable game. DGG (talk) 11:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So are you saying that without this information, players wouldn't know how to play this game? MuZemike (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

not at all. I am saying that even with this information, players still wouldnt know enough to play the game. More is required than a list of pieces and the strengths. DGG (talk) 08:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But it contributes to knowing how to play the game, and is practically unintelligible to non-players. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 15:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOT#GUIDE; as I said, "Anti-Tank is Yes to Bridging? What the hell does that mean?" Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 13:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP is not a gameguide, and no matter how well laid-out this article is it contains data that belongs in a FAQ. Someone another 15:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Wikipedia is not a game guide. JIP | Talk 17:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — This article is not encyclopedic in the slightest. It fails WP:NOTHOWTO. The policy clearly states that Wikipedia is an encyclopedic reference, not an instruction manual, guidebook or textbook. MuZemike (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:GAMEGUIDE information. Even without "how to", explains an excessive amount of the game's strategy beyond what is needed to understand the work. Arguably a violation of WP:NOT#PLOT by the same rationale: excessive in-universe information. Also fails to meet the WP:GNG because there is no substantial coverage in reliable third-party sources that can prove this topic is notable. As of now, the only reliable source is gamespot, and the coverage there is a trivial one-sentence remark about leaders in the game. Randomran (talk) 16:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per everyone. This information is essentially useless to people who are not playing the game. Addionne (talk) 12:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.